Thunderbird Club

[hairypete1138]

I never understood that either. Wouldn't it seem like he took everything he learned from 7ender and MM and made better creation? I have really liked the G&L's I have tried.



IIRC there have been a few people here that mentioned having stress cracks in the paint around the nut on the Epi Classic. I have also seen several listed on Ebay with the same issue. Its probably just cracks in the paint. You see those cracks semi-regularly on neck pockets on plenty of bolt-necked basses.

A crack appeared in exactly the same place on my classic pro after I'd had it for month. I took it to a highly respected local repairer who checked it out and was happy that it was just a crack in the finish, so I wouldn't be too concerned if I were you.

 

[RedVee]

Yep, if we had two fulltime guitarists or if one of them used a Les Paul I would probably use a P bass more with the current band. I have the series/ parallel mod on one of my Jazzes and I find it better with the pickups in series. Just my taste.

Does series on the J make it act like a humbucker ?

 

[theFixer]

Yep, if we had two fulltime guitarists or if one of them used a Les Paul I would probably use a P bass more with the current band. I have the series/ parallel mod on one of my Jazzes and I find it better with the pickups in series. Just my taste.

I'd probably feel differently if bass hadda been my first instrument... but I love 'em all! The P-bass is responsible for a hugely significant portion of rock & roll history. It is a true "foundation". I love the midrangy "honk" of a Jazz bass. It doesn't belong everywhere... but hey... neither do I. I think there's room for all the different basses... but I would use them more like some people use effects pedals. My pickier than hell left hand and my wallet both render that scenario unrealistic. When I finally got to spend some time with a T-bird in my hands... so many mysteries were solved. I finally found what made that snarl that I'd been hearing and loving for so many years (long before I started playing bass). I'd always thought that it had more to do with the amps they were using, than the bass itself. Now... I know... and now I have that, and it makes me smile! It doesn't make me like the others any less. What makes me like them less, are wafer thin necks, and having only one pickup... but I still love the sounds they produce. Now in terms of aesthetics... I've been "tetched". If it don't have soap bars of some sort... it just looks wimpy and wrong (my heart breaks a little every time I see one of those Epi NRs). I think the Cataldo RR is the stone cold sexiest bass that has ever been built... and it's his twist on a Jazz bass.

I brought this up, just to illustrate my point. It's not an "either/or" situation for me. The two worlds can coexist and intermingle. In fact... I like it when they do! It brings uniqueness and versatility with it!

 

[veebass]

Does series on the J make it act like a humbucker ?

Yes and gives a boost in the mids and bottom end.

 

[kat888]

I'd probably feel differently if bass hadda been my first instrument... but I love 'em all! The P-bass is responsible for a hugely significant portion of rock & roll history. It is a true "foundation". I love the midrangy "honk" of a Jazz bass. It doesn't belong everywhere... but hey... neither do I. I think there's room for all the different basses... but I would use them more like some people use effects pedals. My pickier than hell left hand and my wallet both render that scenario unrealistic. When I finally got to spend some time with a T-bird in my hands... so many mysteries were solved. I finally found what made that snarl that I'd been hearing and loving for so many years (long before I started playing bass). I'd always thought that it had more to do with the amps they were using, than the bass itself. Now... I know... and now I have that, and it makes me smile! It doesn't make me like the others any less. What makes me like them less, are wafer thin necks, and having only one pickup... but I still love the sounds they produce. Now in terms of aesthetics... I've been "tetched". If it don't have soap bars of some sort... it just looks wimpy and wrong (my heart breaks a little every time I see one of those Epi NRs). I think the Cataldo RR is the stone cold sexiest bass that has ever been built... and it's his twist on a Jazz bass.

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I brought this up, just to illustrate my point. It's not an "either/or" situation for me. The two worlds can coexist and intermingle. In fact... I like it when they do! It brings uniqueness and versatility with it!

The question is, once it has two Thunderbuckers in it, is it a 'Jazz' any longer?

 

[Dadagoboi]

I think the Cataldo RR is the stone cold sexiest bass that has ever been built... and it's his twist on a Jazz bass.

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Thanks!

The question is, once it has two Thunderbuckers in it, is it a 'Jazz' any longer?

The RR has a hot single coil at the bridge for better high freq response. The NS cover provides perfect shielding, no hum.

As to Jazz basses, JPJ and Joe Osborne come to mind, pretty much opposite ends of the sonic spectrum but great tones. BO is another who did decent work with mis modded Js. Plenty of others.

Then there's GeddyTFOH, wouldn't matter what bass he plays, his 'music' would still suck...IMO

 

[Off-Beat]

I guess I haven't been around long enough but are you folks really that sensitive to what's said about T-Birds?

Absolutely not. I've made my choice(s), but there are plenty people reading this board and they get steered away from anything but boutique or Ps. Of course I'm exaggerating a bit, but you get that feel when you skim through the basses forum.

Another thing are the outwright wrong "facts".
Beginners and shoppers would think a Thunderbird weighs 12 pounds, neck dives the moment you strap it on and you only get muddy farty sounds out of it.


And the everlasting complaining about clichés like guys screaming "Freebird", but then again it has to be P-Bass/Ampeg, because that's how it's always been. You wanna break the cycle? Turn up to a classic rock gig with a Warlock, spandex and an Ibanez promethean.

Nothing against P basses and Ampegs, but some guys are just unreal hypocritical.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I guess I haven't been around long enough but are you folks really that sensitive to what's said about T-Birds?

It's not what was said about TBird that bothered me, even if I wasn't a fan of TBirds I would still have the same thing to say. It's the ignorance thinking that there is no room for improvement and there's only 3 possible tones for basses, and even worse the contradiction that another tone came out later and that's it. I'm not a big Beatles fan but I know they're one of the most known bands, and I'm pretty sure the Hofner that McCartney used does not fall into any of those tones. Same with Cream's Jack Bruce, that EB-3 did not fall in any of those categories.

 

[kat888]

Thanks!



The RR has a hot single coil at the bridge for better high freq response. The NS cover provides perfect shielding, no hum.

As to Jazz basses, JPJ and Joe Osborne come to mind, pretty much opposite ends of the sonic spectrum but great tones. BO is another who did decent work with mis modded Js. Plenty of others.

Then there's GeddyTFOH, wouldn't matter what bass he plays, his 'music' would still suck...IMO

Watched all 4hrs of the 'Running Down a Dream' documentary over this weekend. Ronald Edward Blair and his J basses featured prominently.

 

[Gluvhand]

Absolutely not. I've made my choice(s), but there are plenty people reading this board and they get steared away from anything but boutique or Ps. Of course I'm exaggerating a bit, but you get that feel when you skim through the basses forum.

Another thing are the outwright wrong "facts".
Beginners and shoppers would think a Thunderbird weighs 12 pounds, neck dives the moment you strap it on and you only get muddy farty sounds out of it.


And the everlasting complaining, about clichés like guys screaming "Freebird", but then again it has to be P-Bass/Ampeg, because that's how it's always been. You wanna break the cycle? Turn up to a classic rock gig with a Warlock, spandex and an Ibanez promethean.

Nothing against P basses and Ampegs, but some guys are just unreal hypocritical.

I understand and agree with everything you said here. I guess I just don't care as much.

 

[Nevada Bob]

Do we know for sure the classic is going to be replaced by the vintage? Or is that just conjecture? I can see a market for both basses, the classic is basically the same as the modern Gibsons, and I could see a market for both.

The pre-release literature said that the Vintage will replace the Classic.

 

[Count Bassie]

Talkbass is full of inflated, groomed egos who like to dole out condescending heavy-handedness upon the blind side of the unprepared or undefended; humans who have spent too much time alone or in their support groups. Venturing into a convo in the GP about tube amps vs solid-state, Fender vs Gibson, comb-overs vs hair club... it's startling the level of disparaging and arrogance that gets summarily laid down for you to contend with, just because you aren't one of the chosen of their particular clique. Like the internet is a regression-therapy tool for the 50+ crowd...

Here in our little enclave we can generally go on about all these topics and somehow not forget who we are to ourselves, and to each other- there is respect here which promotes the sharpening of ourselves against the whetstone of counsel, not vaunting or debasing in knee-jerk to better sense, that we could benefit from, given the chance. This group fosters respect, a little self-knowledge. That all under the guise of being "that neck-diving bass club who are clearly off their meds", because it's full of independent thinkers. This camouflage works to benefit- we don't get the people who think their Fender is better than your Fender... it's like a quiet little village full of people who get along, and are also well able to stand up to the occasional assault from the GP Horde...

Hell, the planet is full of those people. Leave 'em alone. Nothing but trouble.

(Edited)

 

[Count Bassie]

Occasionally I toot off here. It's a fun place to do that.

 

[JJR58]

Listen, how about we all gather here in Jersey for a bbq. Not the greatest pic, but you get the idea, wash any troubles away and play music and have some laughs.

 

[TBird1958]

View attachment 1189709 Listen, how about we all gather here in Jersey for a bbq. Not the greatest pic, but you get the idea, wash any troubles away and play music and have some laughs.

If the humidity isn't off the hook, you'll see me later in my best summer print dress

 

[JJR58]

If the humidity isn't off the hook, you'll see me later in my best summer print dress

It's just beautiful today, low humidity.
Just lovely, and the summer print dress will go well in the back yard, you'll compliment all the beautiful flowers.

 

[rodv66]

View attachment 1189709 Listen, how about we all gather here in Jersey for a bbq. Not the greatest pic, but you get the idea, wash any troubles away and play music and have some laughs.

We will be enjoying a meal on the patio today, great day for NJ weather

 

[Bad bassist]

Anyone knows a good replacement bridge for the Epi TB Classic?
I quite hate the 3 screw design and the feeling of lost tone with it.
A good on-body bridge would be much better, imo.

 

[JJR58]

Anyone knows a good replacement bridge for the Epi TB Classic?
I quite hate the 3 screw design and the feeling of lost tone with it.
A good on-body bridge would be much better, imo.

Hipshots, or Babicz. Not sure I spelled that right.

 

[ProgressiveDoom]

Talkbass is full of inflated, groomed egos who like to dole out condescending heavy-handedness upon the blind side of the unprepared or undefended; humans who have spent too much time alone or in their support groups. Venturing into a convo in the GP about tube amps vs solid-state, Fender vs Gibson, comb-overs vs hair club... it's startling the level of disparaging and arrogance that gets summarily laid down for you to contend with, just because you aren't one of the chosen of their particular clique. Like the internet is a regression-therapy tool for the 50+ crowd...

Here in our little enclave we can generally go on about all these topics and somehow not forget who we are to ourselves, and to each other- there is respect here which promotes the sharpening of ourselves against the whetstone of counsel, not vaunting or debasing in knee-jerk to better sense, that we could benefit from, given the chance. This group fosters respect, a little self-knowledge. That all under the guise of being "that neck-diving bass club who are clearly off their meds", because it's full of independent thinkers. This camouflage works to benefit- we don't get the people who think their Fender is better than your Fender... it's like a quiet little village full of people who get along, and are also well able to stand up to the occasional assault from the GP Horde...

Hell, the planet is full of those people. Leave 'em alone. Nothing but trouble.

(Edited)

We at Thunderbird Club are capable of communicating from within and from way outside of the box without conflict or prejudice and if all hell broke loose between the clubs we will be the last club standing. If I did not own a Thunderbird I would buy one just to hang out here with you awesome folks, Ive said that before. Ive been on TB for a number of months and found a list of clubs that I could and should also belong to and even had to ask for a number and still have not got a reply. Im totaly fine with that, I get everything I need right here. Everybody I need to communicate with is right here, hell I learned more about a P bass in here than numbers of threads Ive read elswhere.