Hey All, just picked up a used Epi Classic Pro IV today, can i join the club? I've been playin a '75 Grabber for almost 20 years; she's tired. Always wanted a T-Bird though, and took a liking to the alpine white and found this one for $350 which seemed a decent enough deal.
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has one chip on the bottom thats been touched up, no big deal.
I'm sure there's a wealth of info in this thread and others, but at 40k posts here i might have a hard time finding the answers i seek. So i wonder if someone could point me to some relevant threads or info sources to answer a couple questions about these birds, any threads regarding setup technique, common mods, etc.
- - Best Setup practices:
- 3-point bridge; seems awful finicky and mine already popped out of the body as i adjusted it, is this a thing?
- what about the saddles, are they supposed to just fall out like that? what happens when a string breaks
- any tips to best pickup height for sound/playability
- Options for bridge upgrade?
- Volume knobs - one knob on mine doesnt have a hard stop - its mushy and allows a little extra motion, but feels like it will break. Is this the pot or cracked plastic in the knob?
- do these knobs just pull off?
- Are there any specific replacement knobs that will fit - something with some texture that i can roll with the pinky instead of twisting with two fingers. These knobs seem slippy and pots seem stiff.
Regarding setup practice:
The 3-point bridge is a perfectly working bridge, when you know how to set it up.
Always keep the two rear posts lower than the front post - This will give you a better string break-angle, and will help alleviate the problem with the rear inserts/bushings to pull out of the body.
Also it's recommended not to raise the bridge under string tension as this can also pull out the inserts/bushings while doing so - Lowering the bridge under string tension is not a problem.
If the inserts/bushings have pulled out you can do the following:
1. Glue them back in (hard to get out again if need be, and be careful not to get any glue inside the inserts/bushings).
2. Glue a couple of toothpicks onto the cavity wall before reinserting the inserts/bushings (for better friction).
3. Dap the cavity's with water to raise the grain, and reinsert the inserts/bushings when dried (for better friction).
If you need to pull out the inserts/bushings you can do the following:
1. Remove the stud and insert a small steel ball (from a ball bearing) into the insert/bushing. Then screw the stud back in, and as the stud gets resistance from the ball the insert/bushing will push itself out of the cavity.
2. Insert the stud into the insert/bushing and slowly pull out the entire stud/insert assembly with a claw hammer (protect the body of the bass with a towel or old t-shirt so you don't dent the body).
When reinserting the inserts/bushings again you can either press them in by hand or tap them in lightly with a hammer (again protect the body and studs with a towel or old t-shirt when doing so).
The saddles are only held in place by string tension, so they could theoretically fall out when a string breaks - But in practice they stay in place as it's usually only the core of the string that breaks and the windings going over the saddles will keep them in place - If you remove the broken string and play on without it, the saddle could fall out and be quite difficult to find on a dark stage. So I would recommend to have a backup bass and/or to remove the saddle until you repalce the broken string.
Pickup height: I would raise the pickups as close to the strings as possible without them (the strings) banging against them for optimal output and growl, and then adjust the height between the neck and bridge pickup for best balance.
Bridge upgrade:
1. Babicz Full Contact 3-point bridge (
Babicz Full Contact Hardware - With "eCAM" Saddle Technology from Babicz - FCH 3-Point Four String Bass Bridge (Gibson Style))
2. Hipshot SuperTone 3-point bridge (
SuperTone Gibson® Bass Replacement Bridge)
3. BadBird 3-point bridge + tailpiece (
Badbird Bridge)
Option 1 + 2 are direct fit for both Epiphone and Gibson as they include both metric studs (Epiphone) and imperial studs (Gibson) and require no drilling on the bass.
Option 3 is more "vintage" looking but requires mounting (drilling) a tailpiece to the body.
Regarding knobs: Sounds like your volume pot needs tightning...
Remove the knob (pull it off carefully) and check the nut underneath whether it's gone loose. After retightning it should be working properly - If not, the pot may need to be replaced. Be careful not overtightning the nut as it may crack the finish - After tightning you can always secure it with a drop of nailpolish or Loctite.
Regarding pots: Epiphone's usually use coarse splines Alpha pots as opposed to Gibson, which uses fine splines CTS pots, which has a higher number of splines. So when replacing a knob/pot make sure they match each other, or they will not mount smoothly.
Also the splined pots usually have a split shaft, so if the knobs slide off easily - You can "spread" the split shaft carefully with the tip of a flathead screwdriver before remounting the knobs - That will keep the knobs securely in place.
If you don't like the original Reflector knobs, you could always try a set of Speed knobs or whatever you may fancy. You could also try a set of push-on knurled dome knobs - But look out for some made for splined split shafts like these: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Welcome to the Club!
