Thunderbird Club

[Stevis]

Of course he does. Elvis is everywhere.

And Elvis is everything.

 

[PillO]

Consider this; Record sales are going down and are no longer the main income for artists - So money have to be made elsewhere like on shows and merchandise...

I think it was Bezos that said - I only know two ways of making money; bundling and unbundling.

Up to (and including) CDs, artists could make money because of bundling. If you wanted the one hit song, you had to buy the album and all the songs. Then someone invented the internet (thanks Al Gore) and you could steal songs without loss of quality. The only thing that artists could do was to start selling songs individually. Suddenly, artists' (and record companies') income dropped because you didn't have to buy the 9 filler songs. To make up for that, artists must now tour and sell stuff.

So, in the past, artists toured to sell albums. Now artists distribute songs to sell tours and merchandise.

Those $0.99 songs are what are causing the $100 concert ticket and $40 t-shirt.


But, this does not have to be the rule. I can think of no one who has purchased a Rush song - everyone who buys Rush, buys the whole album. They also came up with a formula - record album, tour, sell recording and DVD of the tour, repeat. Maybe the problem exists primarily in the pop-tart segment?





And to stay on topic - Geddy owns a large Number of Thunderbirds.

 

[Korladis]

I've never spent $100 on a concert ticket that wasn't a multi-day festival.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I think it was Bezos that said - I only know two ways of making money; bundling and unbundling.

Up to (and including) CDs, artists could make money because of bundling. If you wanted the one hit song, you had to buy the album and all the songs. Then someone invented the internet (thanks Al Gore) and you could steal songs without loss of quality. The only thing that artists could do was to start selling songs individually. Suddenly, artists' (and record companies') income dropped because you didn't have to buy the 9 filler songs. To make up for that, artists must now tour and sell stuff.

So, in the past, artists toured to sell albums. Now artists distribute songs to sell tours and merchandise.

Those $0.99 songs are what are causing the $100 concert ticket and $40 t-shirt.


But, this does not have to be the rule. I can think of no one who has purchased a Rush song - everyone who buys Rush, buys the whole album. They also came up with a formula - record album, tour, sell recording and DVD of the tour, repeat. Maybe the problem exists primarily in the pop-tart segment?





And to stay on topic - Geddy owns a large Number of Thunderbirds.

You will never find a Tool song on Spotify or iTunes. They claim that they do that because their albums should listened to in its entirety in order.
iTunes is a double edged sword, because you can view "similar artists" and listen to a sample of the song. From an artist side, that's gaining another fan you didn't have previously.
You already mentioned the other side of the spectrum. I always buy the CD and I can't tell you how many times I've found songs that I love on albums that I bought cause I liked one or two songs

 

[Korladis]

I pretty much listen to albums straight through.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I pretty much listen to albums straight through.

Some bands I can listen to a specific song but for the most part me too. Especially bands like King Diamond that make story heavy concept albums, I can't stand listening to one random song.

 

[RedVee]

That's my favorite AC/DC album
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Good company. Supposedly Keef agrees with you. I love all from High Voltage (Aust editions) through to Back in Black. After that, not so much.
I do like Let there be Rock a lot also, though recently I've been drawn to Dirty Deeds.

You will never find a Tool song on Spotify or iTunes. They claim that they do that because their albums should listened to in its entirety in order.
iTunes is a double edged sword, because you can view "similar artists" and listen to a sample of the song. From an artist side, that's gaining another fan you didn't have previously.
You already mentioned the other side of the spectrum. I always buy the CD and I can't tell you how many times I've found songs that I love on albums that I bought cause I liked one or two songs

and (some) people also download a few songs then go but the album/ cd.
I'm guilty of that. If I really like something, I like to have something tangible.

I don't cry too much for the record companies. They are happy to sell the same stuff multiple times in multiple formats.
Single, album, the 'best of' album, then rinse and repeat for cartridge then for cassette, then for cd etc etc now download.

 

[JIO]

Sweet shirt but $29 plus shipping...is it me or has the price of T-shirts even gotten way outta whack...I mean really...I sound like a crotchety old man...I'm getting there, quicker than I would like, but I am none-the-less!!
Get off my lawn!

My local T-shirt printer would make this exact T-shirt (w/o the Gibson shoulder screen) for about $18. If I wanted one.

 

[hillerup]

I think it was Bezos that said - I only know two ways of making money; bundling and unbundling.

Up to (and including) CDs, artists could make money because of bundling. If you wanted the one hit song, you had to buy the album and all the songs. Then someone invented the internet (thanks Al Gore) and you could steal songs without loss of quality. The only thing that artists could do was to start selling songs individually. Suddenly, artists' (and record companies') income dropped because you didn't have to buy the 9 filler songs. To make up for that, artists must now tour and sell stuff.

So, in the past, artists toured to sell albums. Now artists distribute songs to sell tours and merchandise.

Those $0.99 songs are what are causing the $100 concert ticket and $40 t-shirt.


But, this does not have to be the rule. I can think of no one who has purchased a Rush song - everyone who buys Rush, buys the whole album. They also came up with a formula - record album, tour, sell recording and DVD of the tour, repeat. Maybe the problem exists primarily in the pop-tart segment?





And to stay on topic - Geddy owns a large Number of Thunderbirds.

That's pretty much spot on...

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

and (some) people also download a few songs then go but the album/ cd.
I'm guilty of that. If I really like something, I like to have something tangible.

I dint cry too much or the record companies. They are happy to sell the same stuff multiple times in multiple formats.
Single, album, the 'best of' album, then rinse and repeat for cartridge then for cassette, then for cd etc etc now download.

I have done that too but find myself usually buying the album anyways and can't justify buying a song twice, so I just listen to the song countless times on YouTube until I go and get the CD. There's something special about having something tangible, I don't know maybe I'm just weird that way.

 

[hillerup]

I've never spent $100 on a concert ticket that wasn't a multi-day festival.

That's pretty much what I have to pay on a single artist's concert ticket here in Denmark - And that would be the cheapest ticket of the venue...

 

[TBird1958]

Nonsense... I love Gibson too, and do have a couple - Only problem they don´t come up for sale often in my neck of the woods... Also they don't offer as many color variations as Epiphone, and a fashionable man has to accessorize with matching colors...

As does a fashionable Queen, well said, Michael.

 

[Haji]

Wonder what the lefties will look look like, then..?

Same but backwards.

 

[Haji]

Most of my t-shirts are band shirts.

You guys should go to more underground shows. They're a lot cheaper and so is the merch (t-shirts usually $10-15).

Or just local rock shows. On top of seeing great local talent, you get to meet LOTS of cool people that share your love of music. Plus, it supports the next generation. Go see local talent!

 

[TBird1958]

And to stay on topic - Geddy owns a large Number of Thunderbirds.

Indeed.............Light show Rick notwithstanding...........
You really do have to wonder what the Gen Pop would do if he had really played those out over the years.

 

[JIO]

Indeed.............Light show Rick notwithstanding...........
You really do have to wonder what the Gen Pop would do if he had really played those out over the years.

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GL can own most any bass he chooses to own... but hey - it's a tough job and somebodies got to do it!

 

[BklynKen]

Elvis makes an appearance in the last of the Hitchiker's Guide series.

Now you’ve spoiled it for those who haven’t read it! ;-)

Same but backwards.

Hah, I should have that made! Would be funny to see if anyone catches that.

 

[Count Bassie]

How many parts in that now? I stopped reading after the 4th book in the trilogy.

I think that's it- 4 parts in the trilogy...
Funny to read about the inconsistencies, non-contiguous bits from book to radio show to stage, etc. Loved the books though.

 

[Count Bassie]

Now you’ve spoiled it for those who haven’t read it! ;-)

Wasn't even thinking there... sh**.

 

[BklynKen]

I think that's it- 4 parts in the trilogy...
Funny to read about the inconsistencies, non-contingencies from book to radio show to stage, etc. Loved the books though.

Five books. Or six, if you count, “And Another Thing...”