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[kat888]

12AX7 =100
5751 = 70
12AT7 = 60
12AY7 = 45
12AV7 = 41
12AU7 = 19

 

[kat888]

The tube units rarely sound good because the distortion is a result of plate starving. switching out the tubes wont help.

I have seen Pre/ODs advertised as running at full plate voltage, but don't remember which one(s) they were.

 

[JJR58]

I believe so...




This one..:?

Ebay Restricted item?

Yes.

 

[JJR58]

Slow barge from Nashville?

Via around the world.

 

[JJR58]

I am familiar with the electric razor effect ... and swapping in a 12AU7 didn’t help a lot. You are probably better off looking for a good SS emulation. I went down the valve OD into class D amp path and it was IME a waste of time and money. Definitely try before you buy.

Back in the day SS ODs were pretty nasty and they have improved markedly, but the line between good and fizzy is pretty narrow ... and they’re just not the same.

IDK, i believe really good overdrive comes from an all tube amp.
There are some good pedals out these days, haven't found one that i can bond with yet.

 

[PillO]

12AX7 =100
5751 = 70
12AT7 = 60
12AY7 = 45
12AV7 = 41
12AU7 = 19

From memory, that looks about right. The factoid rattling around my brain is that 12ax7 has about 6x the gain of a 12au7

 

[JJR58]

As far as shiny boxes, I don't use OD much, but I find that the little bit the ToneHammer can have is enough for the minimal grit I sometimes want. The fuzz circuit built into the 360 is fun to play with, but I hardly use it.

That Tone Hammer is a fine little piece. IMO, very organic sounding as long as you don't go crazy with the gain while the AGS is engaged.

 

[kat888]

That Tone Hammer is a fine little piece. IMO, very organic sounding as long as you don't go crazy with the gain while the AGS is engaged.

It's a bit like making caramel actually. The margin between golden brown and burnt, bitter and overdone is very fine. You have to get the drive control set in just that spot.

 

[JJR58]

I would really like to hear the Fender Bassman 300.
Aside from that, i'd be looking for an SVT VR.

 

[JJR58]

It's a bit like making caramel actually. The margin between golden brown and burnt, bitter and overdone is very fine. You have to get the drive control set in just that spot.

There lies the fine line. i so hear you on that Kat.

 

[TBird1958]

Today is beyond beautiful here in Seattle, about 80 and the Sun is low in sky in it's early Fall glory. I really doubt that I'll get to sit out any enjoy a beer and the blue sky past today as the weather is due to change pretty drastically tomorrow and beyond, in fact I don't expect to be able to do this again until next April. Perhaps by then I'll have a new Epiphone to take a picture of, meantime, Cheers one last time from my little green oasis.
Mr. Jackson says "Hi"

 

[kat888]

I would really like to hear the Fender Bassman 300.
Aside from that, i'd be looking for an SVT VR.

Bassman 100T -- then you can drive it a bit -- or Traynor.

 

[theFixer]

Another thing is that a 12AX7 is a more powerful tube than a 12AU7, if I'm not mistaken. That means you will get more clean headroom with the 12AX7. I'll occasionally put a 12AU7 into a small tube amp to get more drive at a lower volume. I wouldn't put one into anything I wanted to get more clean headroom out of.

Actually... you're right. The 12AU7 is the softer tube. I'm gonna hafta find that & re-read what he said...

 

[JJR58]

Bassman 100T -- then you can drive it a bit -- or Traynor.

The Traynor is rarely seen in these parts. Would love to hear one as well.

 

[theFixer]

So, I am back from surgery. the good; it's done. the bad it was the worse hand, so the surgery was more difficult and I knew what was coming. we had some good laughs in the OR because it helps me relive the tension.

but the worst is that I have type left handed! I now have sympathy for all the lefties. how do you manage using this hand?

Well... you just had it done today... and here you are telling us about it today... so... I guess it coulda been worse

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Bassman 100T -- then you can drive it a bit -- or Traynor.

Nice thing about the Mesa Strategy, even the Prodigy, you can run it at "low power" which is roughly 125W so you can drive it quite a bit without demolishing a city block.

 

[kat888]

The Traynor is rarely seen in these parts. Would love to hear one as well.

Canada dude -- it's not that far away.

 

[kat888]

Nice thing about the Mesa Strategy, even the Prodigy, you can run it at "low power" which is roughly 125W so you can drive it quite a bit without demolishing a city block.

Put it up to full power and Jeff can audition it from Queens!

 

[BklynKen]

IDK, i believe really good overdrive comes from an all tube amp.
There are some good pedals out these days, haven't found one that i can bond with yet.

Darkglass Alpha-Omega (or Omicron).

 

[theFixer]

IDK, i believe really good overdrive comes from an all tube amp.
There are some good pedals out these days, haven't found one that i can bond with yet.

Oh I agree 100%... but in Kat's case, a small outboard unit is the right tool for the job.