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#49,141
ProgressiveDoom said:
Some Warmoth stuff gets pricey, I would recommend the same for you but you say neck through so an Epiphone is out Im thinking. My EB3 is an Epiphone and it is a neck through witch caught me way off guard because I thought the big brand name only offered that. Did Epiphone offer a neck through Thunderbird?, you might put forth your plans with one if it does.
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I've often thought about doing a Warmoth build (I have one I bought used). By the time you get all the options you want, you just spent $1,500 on a bass you'll be lucky to sell for $400. I got a tele neck Warmoth parts bass for $300 off the bay to experiment on. Came with a Bart MM pickup that is so comically bad sounding, I can't even describe it. Throwing a Nordy Bigman in it this week, just for grins.
 
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Cheesy confession... as a young boy, this is why I wanted a TBird
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Not just because Pete Way was rad, but the sound...that awesome 'bark' had me hooked for life
 
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dukeorock said:
I've often thought about doing a Warmoth build (I have one I bought used). By the time you get all the options you want, you just spent $1,500 on a bass you'll be lucky to sell for $400. I got a tele neck Warmoth parts bass for $300 off the bay to experiment on. Came with a Bart MM pickup that is so comically bad sounding, I can't even describe it. Throwing a Nordy Bigman in it this week, just for grins.
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IMO the trick is to make sure you build yourself exactly the Warmoth parts bass you want. Then selling/resale value doesn't enter into the equation.
 
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Dadagoboi said:
IMO the trick is to make sure you build yourself exactly the Warmoth parts bass you want. Then selling/resale value doesn't enter into the equation.
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I never have really quite understood the "cult of resale value". If you're terribly worried about resale value, don't buy it in the first place, you obviously don't really want it.
 
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dukeorock said:
I've often thought about doing a Warmoth build (I have one I bought used). By the time you get all the options you want, you just spent $1,500 on a bass you'll be lucky to sell for $400. I got a tele neck Warmoth parts bass for $300 off the bay to experiment on. Came with a Bart MM pickup that is so comically bad sounding, I can't even describe it. Throwing a Nordy Bigman in it this week, just for grins.
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I'd mainly use Warmoth if I wanted something Fender-ish.

I've thought about getting a "Kiesel" neck through neck and a Warmoth body to make into wings, just haven't had the time or money really.

To me the whole point of a Warmoth is to get something exactly right for you, so of course the resale value isn't going to be much.

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I never have really quite understood the "cult of resale value". If you're terribly worried about resale value, don't buy it in the first place, you obviously don't really want it.
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Yeah. I don't really sell basses much. I never worry about resale when buying for that reason.
 
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bholder said:
I never have really quite understood the "cult of resale value". If you're terribly worried about resale value, don't buy it in the first place, you obviously don't really want it.
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+1


The amount of gear flipping that goes on here has always befuddled, bemused and yet is beyond me.

Research, lots of it, and purchase. Haven't flipped anything yet, though I once gifted a MFX unit and a bass to a friend's daughter.


My problem with Warmoth is ... I'm like a hungry underprivileged kid who has free reign of a candy store — where to begin?
How to narrow the choices down?
Everything looks so yummy.
 
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Korladis said:
Problem is that what I want to do would require routing new pickup cavities and filling the existing ones, meaning it would have to be an opaque color (and then finished over) to cover over the ugly scarring.

Probably just a standard Gibson style mini humbucker like the one that goes in the bridge position of the EB-3. Likely a Thunderbucker 66S or Rickenbacker high gain bridge pickup for the bridge position.


Set neck is like an acoustic guitar.

Most Gibson guitars and ones of similar style are set neck.

The neck is fastened to the body with glue. Sort of a middle ground between bolt-on and neck through.

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Typically on the inside it's a bit more complex of a join than it appears from the outside.

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There are various styles of joins used, depending on the manufacturer/builder.
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Very informational Im way more knowledgeable all of a sudden. Thanks Dude.
 
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ProgressiveDoom said:
Very informational Im way more knowledgeable all of a sudden. Thanks Dude.
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You're welcome. :)

Set necks are way more common for guitar, it seems, than in the bass world (aside from Gibson/Epiphone basses). Most basses seem to be either bolt-on (the vast majority, especially FSOs) or full neck through.
 
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Dadagoboi said:
IMO the trick is to make sure you build yourself exactly the Warmoth parts bass you want. Then selling/resale value doesn't enter into the equation.
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Totally! That's the trick. But for a few bucks more I could just have you make me something:)


bholder said:
I never have really quite understood the "cult of resale value". If you're terribly worried about resale value, don't buy it in the first place, you obviously don't really want it.
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I get that too, and really, I'm not a collector or 'investor.' But I am a full time bass player and lots of stuff comes in and out of my little bass stable. Typically, if I don't find myself playing a bass for a year or two, it moves along to fund something else I've been wanting to try. My main 3 basses have been around awhile, get used a lot and ain't going anywhere. But if I'm just goofing around trying new things, it doesn't suck to not lose too much dough on the experiment :)
 
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Feral Feline said:
+1


The amount of gear flipping that goes on here has always befuddled, bemused and yet is beyond me.

Research, lots of it, and purchase. Haven't flipped anything yet, though I once gifted a MFX unit and a bass to a friend's daughter.


My problem with Warmoth is ... I'm like a hungry underprivileged kid who has free reign of a candy store — where to begin?
How to narrow the choices down?
Everything looks so yummy.
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Option anxiety is a thing, for sure!

I don't think I'm a gear flipper, even though I've flipped a few things. For session work, I just like to try different stuff to see what certain producers and artists like. If I can get them a nice variety of sounds and only bring a few basses to the session, everyone wins.

What amazes me are the folks that buy and sell super high end stuff on a (seemingly) weekly basis who only play alone in the guest room. I've been commissioned to make very elaborate and expensive cabs for folks who have never been in a band and never will be. That's a tough one for me to wrap my head around
 
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dukeorock said:
Option anxiety is a thing, for sure!

I don't think I'm a gear flipper, even though I've flipped a few things. For session work, I just like to try different stuff to see what certain producers and artists like. If I can get them a nice variety of sounds and only bring a few basses to the session, everyone wins.

What amazes me are the folks that buy and sell super high end stuff on a (seemingly) weekly basis who only play alone in the guest room. I've been commissioned to make very elaborate and expensive cabs for folks who have never been in a band and never will be. That's a tough one for me to wrap my head around
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Not everyone plays to perform for others...
 
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dukeorock said:
Option anxiety is a thing, for sure!

I don't think I'm a gear flipper, even though I've flipped a few things. For session work, I just like to try different stuff to see what certain producers and artists like. If I can get them a nice variety of sounds and only bring a few basses to the session, everyone wins.

What amazes me are the folks that buy and sell super high end stuff on a (seemingly) weekly basis who only play alone in the guest room. I've been commissioned to make very elaborate and expensive cabs for folks who have never been in a band and never will be. That's a tough one for me to wrap my head around
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Chasing the tone in their head I guess. Something I can be guilty of as well, though I get too attached to instruments to flip them.

I don't really do session work (I'm not good enough and I don't own any Fenders), so that's not as much a concern. Wouldn't be as much point to me bringing more than maybe two basses, even if I did, since my basses tend to be variations of the same sound, really.
 
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