Thunderbird Club

[JJR58]

Thank you, kind sir! (see what I did there?) LOL!

Just make sure they are matching cabs. And yes, i saw..................

 

[theFixer]

Are they still aluminum cones?

Based on their website... it looks like the HyDrive series cabs are hybrid aluminum/paper. The XL series are aluminum, and the VX series are paper.

 

[kat888]

So, if I'm pickin' up what yer layin' down... it sounds like a better way to go in Li'l Momma's case... might be to get a 2x10 now, and maybe add a 1x15 later if she feels so inclined...

No. Not at all. if you have an electronic crossover and are biamping or whatever, but we're bassplayers.

A 210 ... then another 210. Print it out, stick it on the wall: speaker diameter does not equal frequency response.

 

[JJR58]

I'll take that one!!!

The cardboard box?

 

[lowend1]

Well said! I agree that’s a love it or hate it cab for many.

Hartke Hater Here...

 

[JJR58]

Don't let Jeff hear you give me a compliment!

We're on the same page with that.

Too late, i heard. And we are. Punk kid, always right.

 

[JJR58]

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Sort of a mix here.

 

[MommyPlaysBass]

So, if I'm pickin' up what yer layin' down... it sounds like a better way to go in Li'l Momma's case... might be to get a 2x10 now, and maybe add a 1x15 later if she feels so inclined...

Holy $#^%! Is that what she said?!!

 

[theFixer]

No. Not at all. if you have an electronic crossover and are biamping or whatever, but we're bassplayers.

A 210 ... then another 210. Print it out, stick it on the wall: speaker diameter does not equal frequency response.

I wasn't really equating speaker size to frequency response. My thought was (if I read your too-techy-for-me posting correctly) that a 2x10, having 2 drivers, would produce more sound & move more air than a 1x12, and that the addition of a 1x15 would move more, and broaden the spectrum more than a single 12.

 

[theFixer]

Holy $#^%! Is that what she said?!!

well... I THINK she said "more speakers make more sound", though I'm still workin' on it

 

[JJR58]

well... I THINK she said "more speakers make more sound", though I'm still workin' on it

More speakers, more sound is what @hillerup, and his Marshall stack, and @godofthunder59's Hiwatts is what that's all about, just sayin.

 

[Inky13]

No. Not at all. if you have an electronic crossover and are biamping or whatever, but we're bassplayers.

A 210 ... then another 210. Print it out, stick it on the wall: speaker diameter does not equal frequency response.

Kat,I would like you to get in your way back time machine and set the controls to 1992. Upon encountering me, proceed to give me a forceful dope slap and talk me out of a 2x10 by 1x15 bi amp rig.
I really thought I would have the ultimate amp.
I was wrong.
If only we knew then what we know now.
Hey! Watch this! Hold my beer!

 

[kat888]

I wasn't really equating speaker size to frequency response. My thought was (if I read your too-techy-for-me posting correctly) that a 2x10, having 2 drivers, would produce more sound & move more air than a 1x12, and that the addition of a 1x15 would move more, and broaden the spectrum more than a single 12.

A 115 is *roughly* equivalent to a 210. You get into phasing and dispersion issues with different drivers getting the same signal (ie not having a crossover) but we should stop here, before that particular door opens any further.

 

[kat888]

Kat,I would like you to get in your way back time machine and set the controls to 1992. Upon encountering me, proceed to give me a forceful dope slap and talk me out of a 2x10 by 1x15 bi amp rig.
I really thought I would have the ultimate amp.
I was wrong.
If only we knew then what we know now.
Hey! Watch this! Hold my beer!

Well I was there in the 80s with my Ric and monster stereo rig. Never going back there.

Bi-amping is one thing. In audiophile circles there is something of a mania for bi-wiring. You have 2 runs of extremely expensive cable both of which attach to the same terminals on your amp, and which you attach separately to the woofer and tweeter on a single speaker. After some serious A/B testing I decided there was no audible difference - it does help sell more cable though.

 

[JJR58]

I was never really able to find out if there were any phasing issues with this rig. Sounded ok to me.
I know, sunburst and tort. worse than phasing issues.

 

[Gaolee]

A 115 is *roughly* equivalent to a 210. You get into phasing and dispersion issues with different drivers getting the same signal (ie not having a crossover) but we should stop here, before that particular door opens any further.

If it opens any further, bad things happen.

 

[Gaolee]

Well I was there in the 80s with my Ric and monster stereo rig. Never going back there.

Bi-amping is one thing. In audiophile circles there is something of a mania for bi-wiring. You have 2 runs of extremely expensive cable both of which attach to the same terminals on your amp, and which you attach separately to the woofer and tweeter on a single speaker. After some serious A/B testing I decided there was no audible difference - it does help sell more cable though.

It's like shampoo instructions. The guy who decided to include "repeat" was a brilliant marketer.

 

[Inky13]

Well I was there in the 80s with my Ric and monster stereo rig. Never going back there.

Bi-amping is one thing. In audiophile circles there is something of a mania for bi-wiring. You have 2 runs of extremely expensive cable both of which attach to the same terminals on your amp, and which you attach separately to the woofer and tweeter on a single speaker. After some serious A/B testing I decided there was no audible difference - it does help sell more cable though.

I thought I was going to be the next Chris Squire with my Ric in 1980. Life tends to make other plans doesn't it?

 

[kat888]

 

[BklynKen]

What is it about Hartke cabs that those who don't like them don't like?