Thunderbird Club

[dukeorock]

End result, if the 112's are 8Ohm and the 212 is 4Ohm, they should yield the same result, and from there is 100% dependant on your wants and needs

They will probably yield a ‘similar’ result. There can be some noticeable differences when Two woofers interact in the same airspace/enclosure as opposed to two different enclosures

 

[MommyPlaysBass]

With regards to Hartke... I would urge you to try before you buy. They seem to be a love it or hate it kinda cab. Which side of the fence you fall on, is entirely up to you and your ears. I personally am not a fan... but my experience with them is 20 years old now...

Thanks! Will def keep that in mind!

 

[dukeorock]

With regards to Hartke... I would urge you to try before you buy. They seem to be a love it or hate it kinda cab. Which side of the fence you fall on, is entirely up to you and your ears. I personally am not a fan... but my experience with them is 20 years old now...

Well said! I agree that’s a love it or hate it cab for many.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

They will probably yield a ‘similar’ result. There can be some noticeable differences when Two woofers interact in the same airspace/enclosure as opposed to two different enclosures

See, I'm not always right!

 

[theFixer]

Forgive me if this is a stupid idea... but with the GK MB 500 could I just get a 112 cab now and if down the line I find people who I can play with, then get a second 112 to give me a 212 type rig?

As long as you make sure you're getting 8 ohm cabs... yes. I've spent precisely ZERO time with a bass 1x12 cab... but I bet the Duke will have some experience under his belt

 

[Shannon]

I say that sometimes, but I say Arrgghhh!

 

[dukeorock]

See, I'm not always right!

You’re mostly right, if that helps

Thing is, you might prefer one over the other, so I’m not saying one is better.

 

[kat888]

So, ummmmm... first, thank you for the explanation!

And, second... since I'm kind of a math moron... could you maybe say something more like... 2x112's is good or bad vs. 1x212 so I can try to get a handle on what you said?

One 112 is good, an excellent starting point, you can get another later if and when you need or want it.

A 212 is larger, heavier but depending on whether or not you buy new, also cheaper.

 

[dukeorock]

As long as you make sure you're getting 8 ohm cabs... yes. I've spent precisely ZERO time with a bass 1x12 cab... but I bet the Duke will have some experience under his belt

Maybe a little

 

[theFixer]

The New Cataldo Plan For World Domination (or Damnation, take your pick). Apologies to 'The Brain'.

One cardboard box, rained today.
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One quality part, burn the rest. Cat-with-no-tail-who-lives-in-a-Tree don't care, ain't putting no mackerel in his bowl.
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etc...and...

EfSoBird!

Also be a P version. Both with front or back electronics cavity, paint or stain, body wood, neck, and hardware options, etc.

'Research' says there'll be interest in the GP for something like this after the VP's success. Lull offers similar but at a higher price than I'm seeking.

Am I outta the Club?

I'll take that one!!!

 

[dukeorock]

I'll take that one!!!

I think he intends to charge money for em though :/

 

[Shannon]

That and 'oil'.

Oil sea watt eye kin dew four yew.

 

[MommyPlaysBass]

One 112 is good, an excellent starting point, you can get another later if and when you need or want it.

A 212 is larger, heavier but depending on whether or not you buy new, also cheaper.

Thank ya, ma'am!

 

[theFixer]

The rule of thumb is +3dB everytime you double the drivers. The ohm rating on a cab tells you nothing other than the load which is presented to to the output stage of the amp.

You can wire 4 8Ω drivers to present 32, 8 or 2 ohm loads, ie series, series-parallel or parallel.

Now, if we ignore the cabinet ohm rating (not relevant here) the SVT112AV cab (single driver version of what I have) is rated @ 96dB for 1W in. The SVT212AV is rated @ 99dB -- you see, double the drivers gives you another 3dB for that same 1W in.

If you were to add another SVT212AV (yes please), you would get 102dB for that same 1W in. We can go from 1 driver to 4 drivers on the same amp and get an extra 6dB output, which is noticable, bearing in mind twice as loud is +10dB.

So, if I'm pickin' up what yer layin' down... it sounds like a better way to go in Li'l Momma's case... might be to get a 2x10 now, and maybe add a 1x15 later if she feels so inclined...

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

You’re mostly right, if that helps

Thing is, you might prefer one over the other, so I’m not saying one is better.

Don't let Jeff hear you give me a compliment!

We're on the same page with that.

 

[Shannon]

Ponders reversing the array and making a 12x2" cab. Decided it sounded too much like work.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Ponders reversing the array and making a 12x2" cab. Decided it sounded too much like work.

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[Dr_Feelgoood212]

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[Shannon]

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And here I was being silly - should have known someone had done it. It's a couple (thousand) pesetas outta my price range. Wonder if they take an IOU?

 

[theFixer]

I think he intends to charge money for em though :/

oh... well then... I'll be needing mine with a P-bass neck on it

 

[Inky13]

With regards to Hartke... I would urge you to try before you buy. They seem to be a love it or hate it kinda cab. Which side of the fence you fall on, is entirely up to you and your ears. I personally am not a fan... but my experience with them is 20 years old now...

Are they still aluminum cones?