Thunderbird Club

[JJR58]

What's up with Page 3572? For me running Firefox, it exists but there aren't any posts to view. When I move on to Page 3573, the posts continue.

I saw that as well.

 

[JJR58]

It's the new #62.

 

[Larry V]

It's the new #62.

#62 and #3572. Both end in #2...

 

[JJR58]

Things have gone whack, only 2 posts on 3573, how did we get to 3574?

 

[Gaolee]

What's up with Page 3572? For me running Firefox, it exists but there aren't any posts to view. When I move on to Page 3573, the posts continue.

3572 is the new 62. There were very few 'Birds in '63, which means we leap to 3574 and full production.

[edit] We are jumping to the same conclusions. It must be truth.

 

[JJR58]

Scary music inserted.

 

[JIO]

Same with the fretless 'Bird and the 2001. Go figure.

Have you posted a pic of this? A fretless T-bird is definitely an anomaly.

 

[JIO]

Scary music inserted.

It would be cool to hear that slowed down 800%

 

[TBird1958]

Would you mind elaborating on the differences? I was under the impression they were both the same body and neck basically (feel), only difference being the pickups and hardware.

When the "Classic" first came out I had one to review and keep for about 6 months before sending it to a friend in Germany, overall it best equates to a post '2000 Gibson except for the neck profile, which is slightly flatter and reminds me a bit of a '76. The body is modified with a greater lower 'bout cut and is thin like a Gibson, the headstock is small as are the tuners - These are really nice, they play well, have a more contemporary tone and are a very solid value.
I have a new Vintage Pro, first, it shares nothing with the Classic other than looking like a Thunderbird, the body is thicker, and shaped slightly different, headstock is larger of course, for me the neck is noticeably different, much thicker front to back. The pickups and hardware are of course meant to be like an early '60s issue Bird, tonally it's close to a couple of 'Bird that I have with Mike Lull '63 Spec pickups. Again, a very nice bass, quite different from the Classic.

 

[JJR58]

It would be cool to hear that slowed down 800%

Excellent choice!

 

[dieselman]

What's up with Page 3572? For me running Firefox, it exists but there aren't any posts to view. When I move on to Page 3573, the posts continue.

Late effects of the Initiation Ritual!

 

[Gaolee]

Have you posted a pic of this? A fretless T-bird is definitely an anomaly.

Yes. I probably ought to take another picture of it one of these days, because the pictures of it were thousands of pages ago.

 

[Larry V]

Yes. I probably ought to take another picture of it one of these days, because the pictures of it were thousands of pages ago.

I'd like to see it(again, maybe) since I can't remember if I saw it or not.

 

[PillO]

What's up with Page 3572? For me running Firefox, it exists but there aren't any posts to view. When I move on to Page 3573, the posts continue.

Moderators are about to ban all members of the Thunderbird club except #62

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Have you posted a pic of this? A fretless T-bird is definitely an anomaly.

Pulled the frets off a 4001 once. What was I thinking?!!....
Yeah! Pic please!!!

 

[Fab Superlative]

Yeah, Cumquat Thunderbutt.

Oh ya' I remember that old Donovan tune.

 

[Gaolee]

I'd like to see(again, maybe) it since I can't remember if I saw it or not.

It looks just like a burst finished Pro IV, except that it has no frets and Alumitone pickups. I recently took a sharpie to the dots to make them more or less the same color as the fingerboard, so it looks more fretless than it did. I don't know how long the sharpie will last.

 

[Fab Superlative]

What's up with Page 3572? For me running Firefox, it exists but there aren't any posts to view. When I move on to Page 3573, the posts continue.

The boards bloopware is having a tough time keeping up with y'all. same glitch issue on my machine.

 

[TBird1958]

Thanks very much for your response. I'm new to the thread and may have missed the first few thousand or so posts...

It is a long rambling discourse, invariably we wobble off topic at times, but questions such as yours are always welcome and encouraged, we have a great group of enablers here, all too happy to help you spend your hard earned money on a Thunderbird

 

[Haji]

This whole ‘just as good, or better than’ stuff is becoming a sticking point with me. One may be different and more suitable to your needs, but ‘better?’ Different, sure. Both my Gibson’s are post 1989 and they’re terrific. I think the ceramic pickups sound really cool for some things. For other (most) things, I prefer the Alnico pickups like TB’s or Lollars, but that doesn’t mean the modern ceramics suck. They don’t .
The Epi VP’s are nice, especially at their price point. For all I know, I’ll wind up with one at some point, but I wouldnt sell either Gibson to do so

I've been a shooter most of my life, and the "as good as" thing is rampant in that field. A friend of mine once said "you can have the 'just as good as'...or you can have the 'as'."

Things that are the standard of comparison almost universally earn that position, which is why they have that status.

Now, questions relating to value are a separate part of the equation. "Worth it" is a totally different matter of perception, and price as it relates to affordability is also separate from those factors too. Each buyer must weigh those judgements for themselves.

From my short time working in guitar manufacturing and 1st hand accounts from my former Gibson employee roommate, I don't seem "worth" what they cost, and I find tremendous value in Epiphone's TBirds, so I'll buy another Epi and would just about have to be given a Gibson. That is not to say that the Epi is equal to Gibson, just that I find it a much better value for the money. In the end, I try to strive for best value vs simple lowest price.