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Thunderbird Club

Been working on my solo bass stuff. Got a new sampler called the Elektron Octatrack MK2, which allows for live looping, among many other things. Horrific learning curve! Seriously difficult machine to master. I’m about 10 days in with mine and did this live looping jam. Every sound is me playing either my Gibson T Bird or my Gretsch SpectraSonic bass. Maybe David Lynch is looking for new, off the wall music?


This stuff is always interesting. Thanks!
 
Been working on my solo bass stuff. Got a new sampler called the Elektron Octatrack MK2, which allows for live looping, among many other things. Horrific learning curve! Seriously difficult machine to master. I’m about 10 days in with mine and did this live looping jam. Every sound is me playing either my Gibson T Bird or my Gretsch SpectraSonic bass. Maybe David Lynch is looking for new, off the wall music?


Love this Mark!!!, it kinda morphs from a NIN sound to the total Angelo Badalamenti thing with some umph.
 
I don't have any history with your amp/cab combo or that particular venue, but if I needed a good starting point I'd reach out to Talkbass Member @tombowlus
He has about the broadest amplification equipment experience that I've run across and may have some good insight for you. Looks like a very challenging venue to say the least.

That rig should be more than enough. I woudl suggest boosting both mids a bit, since the Neo410 is a tad scooped, but other than that, it should be plug-and-play friendly.
 
the strap button is on the neck plate. it dives. are you saying to screw into neck? this is a 2014 china model
No. It is in the right place. Some of them just do dive. I guess yours is one of those. Next step is a wide strap and playing witht he neck pointed up more than you would with the usual bass guitar. That shortens the moment arm and reduces dive.
 
So here's a little something coming up for myself and the band:

We're traveling to Pt. Townsend, WA to play a smallish bar that has been rented out for the evening to celebrate someone's 50th B day. The PA will just handle the vocals and maybe the keys, the place isn't big so volume out of my amp isn't a problem, actually it's the reverse,, we'll probably need to be a bit quieter than what we're used to. So the question is, should I EQ differently for this? If so, give me some thoughts. I'm planning on taking my GK700RBII and a 4x10 and using the Greco Thunderbird II as the main bass wit the Epi VP along as the backup/detuned bass.

I'd rather hear from you guys than the Gen Pop so.................
My 360 is available for a short term demo. I suggest that and sufficient wattage. It is the if we are too loud then you are... Obviously not a rock star with damaged hearing! As always, I'm completely serious.

I don't see why you would eq different unless you lower the bass a bit. Smaller venues get boomy if there is too much low frequency power, especially if it is a little small and the walls are hard. It can be odd playing in a place where the stage volume is low enough that the band has difficulty hearing each other but it is still loud on the floor. Saying this probably shows what kinds of dives I play at.
 
My 360 is available for a short term demo. I suggest that and sufficient wattage. It is the if we are too loud then you are... Obviously not a rock star with damaged hearing! As always, I'm completely serious.

I don't see why you would eq different unless you lower the bass a bit. Smaller venues get boomy if there is too much low frequency power, especially if it is a little small and the walls are hard. It can be odd playing in a place where the stage volume is low enough that the band has difficulty hearing each other but it is still loud on the floor. Saying this probably shows what kinds of dives I play at.
One place we used to play, we had to go in as a trio rather than a quartet(space-or lack of-issue). On my night "in the barrel", I went in to listen to the guys. Sitting halfway across the room, I couldn't believe how boomy the sound was(exposed ceiling-trusses,ductwork,etc.). Told the guys to add highs and cut lows. Wall behind band was floor to ceiling glass, same to our right. Concrete wall to our left, angled entry (at other end of rectangular shaped room) that reflected our sound into the dining room. People in the bar area complained they couldn't hear us, people in the dining room said we were too loud. Aaarrrrghh!
 
That is about the usual. Concrete block is bad, too. I also angle the cabinet to at least get the sound bouncing around a bit instead of aimed directly at a wall. Some rooms are just tough to solve.
As luck would have it we don't hafta worry about it any more-they're closed, drove their customer base away with pricing policies.<Addendum>I always used an amp w/ a kickback cab but the guitarists aimed theirs straight at their knees. Then people at the bar would bit,,,er complain the guitars were too loud(6' to 15' away). Duh!
 
The neck plate is the right spot. If you’re still feeling it tug, the next thing is strap material and width. I do not experience any dive on my various TBirds but I use Gibson Slingshots and it’s grippy and 2.5” wide.

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Ditto on the Sling Shot. Although expensive, it’s well made and comfortable. You’ll be able to use it on the other birds you’ll be getting in the future.
 
My 360 is available for a short term demo. I suggest that and sufficient wattage. It is the if we are too loud then you are... Obviously not a rock star with damaged hearing! As always, I'm completely serious.

I don't see why you would eq different unless you lower the bass a bit. Smaller venues get boomy if there is too much low frequency power, especially if it is a little small and the walls are hard. It can be odd playing in a place where the stage volume is low enough that the band has difficulty hearing each other but it is still loud on the floor. Saying this probably shows what kinds of dives I play at.
Boomy ain't bad, you can always back off the bass. It's the highly reflective, reverberating rooms that can be a nightmare..
 
Laundry time, never know what you'll find besides dirty socks... like a Badbird on a Bad Bird...with 20 frets.

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