Thunderbird Club

[GonePlaid]

You could hold onto an old set or two...

Great idea-except any bass I've bought that had rounds had them stripped and trashed(by me).

 

[GonePlaid]

drop D tuners are super cool, something about that low D on songs like "The Wall" and others (of course) but sometimes they can be tweaky in holding the standard E tuning when you flip them back...
I've got this one strung BEAD for sub E stuff..works well..

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Yeah. I have two strung B-E-A-D. Oh, and G

 

[GonePlaid]

Was jaco’s bass of doom neck heavy?

That ought to stir up somebody. Maybe.

You might get charged with second degree manslaughter for the strokes, etc. you've caused.

 

[GonePlaid]

Having something tuned DADG is way above my paygrade... I would have trouble keeping track of where notes are. Instead, I have my EB-3 tuned BEAD; then all the scales work just like they should. And there are some possibilities to some songs an octave lower, which can be fun.

I'd love to hear that low B on the 'mudbucker'. It's gotta rattle walls.

 

[GonePlaid]

actually easier than it seems. you just learn and memorize the part disregarding everything you learned of standard half and whole tones..

I don't think it would work reading big band charts. I'd wind up playing a lot of 7ths.

 

[GBassNorth]

Sounds good in practice, but how does it work in theory?

if you use string theory it makes perfect sense.

 

[Gaolee]

You might get charged with second degree manslaughter for the strokes, etc. you've caused.

Nobody seems to have noticed. It was a failed attempt at trolling. How embarrassing.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Sounds good in practice, but how does it work in theory?

has worked for me for about 40 years...try it and see for yourself..

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Yeah. I have two strung B-E-A-D. Oh, and G

yeah, if you look in the closet in that pic i got a 5 string as well but that's where it stays, in the closet..

 

[GonePlaid]

yeah, if you look in the closet in that pic i got a 5 string as well but that's where it stays, in the closet..

My 2 5ers are my least played-but I still love 'em.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

My 2 5ers are my least played-but I still love 'em.

just don't like the string spacing.....i've only used that one for recording..

 

[GonePlaid]

The Les Paul's spacing is close to the '67 'Bird's but the EpiBird is wider-and it's heavier. I really need to use it more, esp. w/ the Cobalt flats on it. What a difference! CORRECTION(10/25)> I got out my custom measuring device(OK, ruler)and 'oops!'-The EpiBird 5er is 1 11/16" @ the nut, 2 3/8" @ 12th fret. The LPB25 is 1 3/4"(1/16" wider)@ the nut, same 2 3/8" @ 12th fret. I guess the EpiBird looks/feels wider b/c of its length(?). Color me confozzeled.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I don't think it would work reading big band charts. I'd wind up playing a lot of 7ths.

you must be playing other (instrument) parts or newer big band stuff...I've yet to see big band string bass parts going beneath this..

 

[MCF]

Nobody seems to have noticed. It was a failed attempt at trolling. How embarrassing.

Just couldn’t resist, could you. And it’s (should be) too early yet to be drinking. Although reading that thread could drive one to it. That is an interesting vid in there though.

 

[GonePlaid]

you must be playing other (instrument) parts or newer big band stuff...I've yet to see big band bass parts going beneath this..
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A lot of arrangers are writing low Eb's(and lower),expecting 5 string basses. And some concert band string bass parts expect at least one bassist(upright)to have a 'C' foot. In the concert band I play in, I'll find out in rehearsal if there are any lower than E parts that I'd need a 5er. I have used the Les Paul for one concert. I bet they'd go crackers if I brought in the EpiBird 5, although I'm using the '67 for our 'Halloween' themed concert. I'm also using the Coffin case as a prop.

 

[RedVee]

Thanks RedVee. Pretty impressive, extensive recollection! Yes, some AMCs came with Chrysler engines here as well. Be curious to see the production numbers in Australia, since although I could not find gasoline pricing data pertaining to that country in the 70s prior to the emissions policing. If I extrapolate from current prices it would seem you guys are paying about 50% more than us and if this holds true for the 70s, a V8 would have been a luxury in your neck of the woods. As much as I dig exotic all aluminum high revving D/OHC V8s and V12s, nothing beats the low end torque, roar and fury of these things...
Would love to see and hear one of those Holden V8s in person..

The AMCs were always very low production, few and far between now but I’m sure there are still some tucked away in garages.
Due to the regulations in those days it was advantageous to build or assemble locally. At times we also had Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, VW, Mercedes, Renault & Peugeot in the same factory!, Citroen, BMC/Leyland; as well as the Detroit 3 full builds. Some of them ran from about 80-95% Aust content. You used to see odd companies sharing the same paint colours. A company called AMI assembled quite a few companies and used to put little badges just forward of the front doors.
Toyota gobbled AMI up and used it exclusively.

There was an extensive parts manufacturing sector then.

Petrol here in the 60s until the early 70s was cheap compared to UK and Europe, prob more than US though. We even had fuel crisis’ in he late 70s were I remember queuing up, odd and even days etc.
We also got some of our own oil from the Bass Straight, and had a few refineries around the place - the last of which just closed over the last few years. Now just import as per cars.

I have a 253 Commodore - not running - and the sound coming gently up from idle is beautiful. Much much nicer than the import LS etc V8s. BTW the V8s resecured market leadership for Holden after Ford dropped the V8 from Falcon late 80s/90s

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

A lot of arrangers are writing low Eb's(and lower),expecting 5 string basses. And some concert band string bass parts expect at least one bassist(upright)to have a 'C' foot. In the concert band I play in, I'll find out in rehearsal if there are any lower than E parts that I'd need a 5er. I have used the Les Paul for one concert. I bet they'd go crackers if I brought in the EpiBird 5, although I'm using the '67 for our 'Halloween' themed concert. I'm also using the Coffin case as a prop.

interesting and not surprising, you can't get a country gig without a 5 string these days..
why would they go crackers with the EpiBird?..

 

[Engle]

Just a little tidbit for those of you who like to work on your own guitars and basses...
A Fast, Easy Way to Fix Your Nut Slot
Enjoy!

If you press down the string on the bridge side of the second fret, you can get a better idea of the height of the nut slot by tapping down the string onto the first fret.

 

[GonePlaid]

interesting and not surprising, you can't get a country gig without a 5 string these days..
why would they go crackers with the EpiBird?..

It actually sounds 'klankier' than the 67. 'Course that's the way I have it EQ'ed. I s'pose I could"mellow it out".<Edit> I usually keep the 'tone' on the '67 "7" or lower. The EpiBird is @ "7" up. And, again, I don't use the bridge pup on either one. I think there may be a problem w/ the pot on the '67;the EpiBird's bridge pup is a (barf) 'J'.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

The AMCs were always very low production, few and far between now but I’m sure there are still some tucked away in garages.
Due to the regulations in those days it was advantageous to build or assemble locally. At times we also had Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, VW, Mercedes, Renault & Peugeot in the same factory!, Citroen, BMC/Leyland; as well as the Detroit 3 full builds. Some of them ran from about 80-95% Aust content. You used to see odd companies sharing the same paint colours. A company called AMI assembled quite a few companies and used to put little badges just forward of the front doors.
Toyota gobbled AMI up and used it exclusively.

There was an extensive parts manufacturing sector then.

Petrol here in the 60s until the early 70s was cheap compared to UK and Europe, prob more than US though. We even had fuel crisis’ in he late 70s were I remember queuing up, odd and even days etc.
We also got some of our own oil from the Bass Straight, and had a few refineries around the place - the last of which just closed over the last few years. Now just import as per cars.

I have a 253 Commodore - not running - and the sound coming gently up from idle is beautiful. Much much nicer than the import LS etc V8s. BTW the V8s resecured market leadership for Holden after Ford dropped the V8 from Falcon late 80s/90s

not to derail and i'll stop after this but this is really interesting stuff. this is what i meant about the mishmash of different manufacturers worldwide who shared factories parts and models... at a a recent business trip to Buenos Aires i learned our distributor shared my passion for cool cars and let me take his "baby" for a spin. a late 60s IKA Torino. had never heard of these but it turns out it was built from AMC rambler (he told me the ford falcon was built in Argentina until the 80s!) body panels on a custom chassis, styled by Pininfarina from Turin Italy hence the Torino name (not to be confused with the Torino and Grand Torino Fords) and used the Jeep "Tornado" straight 6 block (originally made by Nash) with a custom designed by IKA (Kaiser Argentina) OHC aluminum head. Fitted with three side draft Webers it produced 250 HP at 240 ft/lb of torque at 5400RPM. His had the stock ZF 4 speed Renault transmission on the floor.
Man that thing was quick and the handling was on rails stuff! Talk about a mutt of a car..