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#98,241
JJR58 said:
Does anybody like/have an opinion on Eden heads?
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I had a WT405, and it was beautiful. In fact it was too beautiful... it seemed to wrap my notes in a blanket of precious, delicate and tasty eq that I couldn't bear to set out front of the mix. It drew too much attention to my bass playing, and I couldn't stand it.
I traded it for an Ampeg SVP preamp, which was a tad noisy and bummed me out. I should've kept the Eden and learned to use it.
Go for it.
 
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#98,245
Count Bassie said:
I had a WT405, and it was beautiful. In fact it was too beautiful... it seemed to wrap my notes in a blanket of precious, delicate and tasty eq that I couldn't bear to set out front of the mix. It drew too much attention to my bass playing, and I couldn't stand it.
I traded it for an Ampeg SVP preamp, which was a tad noisy and bummed me out. I should've kept the Eden and learned to use it.
Go for it.
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Interesting, two different takes on it between you and Gbass.
 
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#98,246
PillO said:
Eden was bought by Marshall a few years ago. Neither an opinion on nor like of, just information.
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Sometimes companies buy others to represent themselves ina lower or higher quality/price point. Most times they buy them to shut them down or subject them to becoming their low end product. Gibson/Epiphone. Ford/mercury. I prefer to own products by the parent companies
 
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#98,249
Chucky Stiletti said:
those speakers are very desirable in the second hand market. i bought a used Goliath 2X10 in the early 90's and sold it for almost 400 dollars less than three years ago..
don't care much for SWR heads but those drivers.....they also cost a fortune to recone..
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I never cared for SWR combos they didn't seem to have enough going on. I played a 350x i believe its called - i liked it. Was a good contender if i hadn't found the 400RB for less. & honestly, i'd never want to part with my goliath - something about it that i love over ampeg, fender, orange, etc. It just has some magic.
 
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#98,250
JJR58 said:
mmmmmmm, GK territory. I like that.
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The only GK I've played through belonged to the then house bassist at a jazz jam. Out of consideration for him, I didn't change his settings(I was only gonna play 3-4 songs). It was OK and I'm certain I coulda f---ed* with it to get the tone I prefer. Decent small amp-1x10
*ool:smug:
 
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#98,251
ThaCoast said:
I never cared for SWR combos they didn't seem to have enough going on. I played a 350x i believe its called - i liked it. Was a good contender if i hadn't found the 400RB for less. & honestly, i'd never want to part with my goliath - something about it that i love over ampeg, fender, orange, etc. It just has some magic.
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Exactly-for you and your preferences. I considered an Orange until I heard a coupla demos. Too "modern" sounding for me. Someday I might find an amp that duplicates what I remember hearing-in my head-from my '63 piggyback Bassman. Of course, some 35 years after I sold it(OK, them-I had 2), I prolly wouldn't recognise it.:banghead:
 
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#98,252
JJR58 said:
Interesting, two different takes on it between you and Gbass.
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Go with the Counts recollection, he owned one. I just played through a couple at various gigs. I did like them and also agree with Chucky that the ones I tried remind me of the early GK stuff, which I also consider slightly darker sounding than the newer GK stuff.

In my limited amp exposure I'd place Epifani, Phil Jones and Walter Woods at the Hifi very transparent end of the scale; with Ampeg, vintage Acoustic and the newer GK stuff in the middle; and Eden, Ashdown, older GK, Thunderfunk and Aguilar at the darker slightly more colored tone end. YMMV
 
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#98,253
Vintage Acoustic varies. A 360 stack has a specific sound - big, round, juicy, with lots of blues and dark greens. A 370 has a drier, more orange/brown sound and is a bit raspy for my tastes. A 320, at least through a 408 cabinet, is closer to a 360, but more hi-fi if you will. None are better or worse, just different. The Grexa Acoustic USA 360 can be a big sound like the original, but it can also get full spectrum, and I think it is the best of the lot, assuming you can find one. I don't care for the Ampeg sound that much. It is like a 370 only even more on the raspy orange/brown end of things. They don't have all the different colors in their sound. I have liked what little I have heard from vintage Peavey iron, but I can't say all that much because I haven't used much of it. I had a small Kustom combo that sounded absolutely awful. I'm also not a huge fan of the 126 Acoustic combo I leave in the rehearsal space. It sounds like bass, but it isn't what I want to sound like live. As far as the modern stuff, I have a Carvin MB12 combo and extension cabinet that has the definition of a modern, hi-fi sound. It's good with the upright especially, but it can also be dialed in to get a bit darker, rounder sound if that's what you want. It cannot come close to a 360, but then nothing does. The Carvin is a couple little boxes that are easy to move in a way that the 360 isn't, so there's that.

I played through a Sunn 200T (I think) at one point and liked it a whole lot. I don't remember exactly what it sounded like, but I remember liking what I heard.
 
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#98,256
GonePlaid said:
Exactly-for you and your preferences. I considered an Orange until I heard a coupla demos. Too "modern" sounding for me. Someday I might find an amp that duplicates what I remember hearing-in my head-from my '63 piggyback Bassman. Of course, some 35 years after I sold it(OK, them-I had 2), I prolly wouldn't recognise it.:banghead:
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Yeah, Maybe the goliaths combination of rear port, specific drivers (PAS), & 'compact' size just has a good dynamic balance compared to the modern stuff. If i could find another of these, i'd swipe it up for sure. Or any 410 that's rear ported TBH.
 
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#98,257
Chucky Stiletti said:
people often overlook crappy old wiring in some venues...
i remember an outdoor gig where a long (60 or 70 feet) extension was used for the stage and the guitarist's Twin Reverb had the pilot lamp almost completely off (very slight dim) but the amp was still functioning..
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I think the wiring is ok in that rehearsal space. The Traynor fired right up with no issues. That said, I could have grabbed my meter and plug tester to verify the power.
 
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