Thunderbird Club

[BklynKen]

I was looking at it from the point of view of reverb. The Green Russian is quite popular for bass and reasonably priced too. Maybe check it out?

Thanks. Maybe, but I'm quite happy with my AO. Just curious what works for other people.

 

[Stevorebob]

Cremation or above-ground crypts?

Both. The above-ground crypts serve as solar crematories. The remains are eventually dumped to the bottom of the crypt to allow for additional burials. If you visit a New Orleans cemetery, you’ll note far more deceased listed on the crypts than there are spaces for coffins. Crypt deeds are transferred (inherited or sold) outside families and the process continues. (Sorry for the pedantic explanation. I’m an L.A. boy who has come to own a crypt in the other LA — New Orleans, LA — as my final place of rest.)

 

[RedVee]

There is a story that Richie Blackmore had some issue (reliability ?) with his Marshall 200s and grabbed some Eminar Bass 200s and found them good. I assume it was on a tour of Oz in the 70s. That’s probably the biggest claim to fame.

So I also assume (from internet comments) that they are Marshall like, but using US style valves - I guess like a Fender Bassman. I now not what differences there are between them all.

I asked the guy that checked it out whether it was a Fender copy or a Marshall copy and he said not really. A bit of it’s own thing but built in that similar style. He also said he loved playing it with his guitar.

Early AC/DC pictures show some Eminars but they may have been supplied at the shows. Mark Evans was mentioned somewhere as using an Eminar Bass 300 at some stage.

 

[fasterpussycat]

Thanks. Maybe, but I'm quite happy with my AO. Just curious what works for other people.

You were seeing another dirt pedal behind the AO's back -- don't try to come over all innocent with us!

 

[Mike.C.]

Both. The above-ground crypts serve as solar crematories. The remains are eventually dumped to the bottom of the crypt to allow for additional burials. If you visit a New Orleans cemetery, you’ll note far more deceased listed on the crypts than there are spaces for coffins. Crypt deeds are transferred (inherited or sold) outside families and the process continues. (Sorry for the pedantic explanation. I’m an L.A. boy who has come to own a crypt in the other LA — New Orleans, LA — as my final place of rest.)

Had no idea. Thank you.

 

[BklynKen]

You were seeing another dirt pedal behind the AO's back -- don't try to come over all innocent with us!

Not as far as the AO knows.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

There is a story that Richie Blackmore had some issue (reliability ?) with his Marshall 200s and grabbed some Eminar Bass 200s and found them good. I assume it was on a tour of Oz in the 70s. That’s probably the biggest claim to fame.

So I also assume (from internet comments) that they are Marshall like, but using US style valves - I guess like a Fender Bassman. I now not what differences there are between them all.

I asked the guy that checked it out whether it was a Fender copy or a Marshall copy and he said not really. A bit of it’s own thing but built in that similar style. He also said he loved playing it with his guitar.

Early AC/DC pictures show some Eminars but they may have been supplied at the shows. Mark Evans was mentioned somewhere as using an Eminar Bass 300 at some stage.

because Fenders were so expensive in England, Jim Marshall basically copied the Bassman ckt (down to the 5881 mil-spec 6L6s as in the pic) and added a Celestion speaker. later, to again reduce costs, he opted for the Mullard-Philips EL-34 which is a completely different tube than the 6L6 (I'll PM you with details so as not to derail) because of it's European manufacture hence better cost. for this change, he had to have the output transformer redesigned and voila! the true original Marshall tone was born....something tells me your Eminar may be of that early Marshall hybrid flavor..

 

[ThaCoast]

On the subject of Amps, was watching Invalid Link Removed the other day, & there's a comment comparing fender amps with the Vox & marshall. "Vox is a fender that smokes 3 packs a day, Marshall is a fender on 'white dust'."

 

[RedVee]

because Fenders were so expensive in England, Jim Marshall basically copied the Bassman ckt (down to the 5881 mil-spec 6L6s as in the pic) and added a Celestion speaker. later, to again reduce costs, he opted for the Mullard-Philips EL-34 which is a completely different tube than the 6L6 (I'll PM you with details so as not to derail) because of it's European manufacture hence better cost. for this change, he had to have the output transformer redesigned and voila! the true original Marshall tone was born....something tells me your Eminar may be of that early Marshall hybrid flavor..
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[fasterpussycat]

because Fenders were so expensive in England, Jim Marshall basically copied the Bassman ckt (down to the 5881 mil-spec 6L6s as in the pic) and added a Celestion speaker. later, to again reduce costs, he opted for the Mullard-Philips EL-34 which is a completely different tube than the 6L6 (I'll PM you with details so as not to derail) because of it's European manufacture hence better cost. for this change, he had to have the output transformer redesigned and voila! the true original Marshall tone was born....something tells me your Eminar may be of that early Marshall hybrid flavor..
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And Fender circuits were borrowed from the AT&T (was it? RCA?) manual.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

So on the Thunderbird Players Group page on FB(you all should be members if you 1) are on FB and 2) are in this sub lol. So over there I asked the same question. Over there the totals are 5 for & 0 naked so that makes a combined total of 9 for inlays and 6 votes Naked.

I think I am going with the inlays. Im mot at 50/50, instead im more like a 60/40 maybe a 65/35.

I'm a member of that group, but don't see everything posted because stupid algorithms.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Morning! Some random thoughts on pedals...

Hung out with a really nice fella last night at my gig. He was a bass player in one of the other bands on the bill. His band were all original, but it was basically ‘classic’ riff rock, kinda on the hippie side of things. He said he liked my upright playing and Derek Hokes music and half apologized that his gig required that he bring a pedalboard. Fairly small board with two different drives and a modulation pedal. Can’t remember what pedals besides a Green Muff, but all pretty standard stuff bass players use.
I watched his set and either couldn’t hear any changes to his sound at all after watching him press a pedal, or if I did notice a change, it was that his sound got a bit thinner. This is my experience with the vast majority of bass players I see with pedalboards. I either hear no real change in tone, or a change for the worst in tone. This includes players with massive pedalboards sometimes. Once in a blue moon I’ll hear a bass player use a pedal that actually makes a useful difference, but it’s really rare.
Ironically, I love pedals and own some pretty high end ones. I use em for my solo electronic stuff all the time. But live it’s really rare that I notice any change at all, let alone a positive change.

I currently run through a tuner, a compressor and an EQ; the latter two are almost always on. I had a couple of other pedals, but it was the same thing you described- in a live setting they didn't help and sometimes hurt. I'm planning to get my old Ross flanger fixed (lightning victim); I'll see if that does what I want the occasional time I want it, or if I should just get an MXR (think Rob Grange on "Stranglehold"). And I'll eventually pick an overdrive. That Shuga sounds tempting, but I'm not in a big hurry for either.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

And Fender circuits were borrowed from the AT&T (was it? RCA?) manual.

yeah and RCA borrowed those from Western Electric..

 

[Miles_ONeal]

yeah and RCA borrowed those from Western Electric..

Everyone borrowed from everyone. And everyone learned from everyone else, which is why tube technology grew so quickly. The tube companies were selling tubes, not circuits. The more circuits, the more products which needed tubes.
The early days of transistors were somewhat similar, as were the early days of guitar amps, personal computing, etc. You didn't have someone like Mesa trying to patent every little circuit innovation. Quite a few of the early Gibson amps appear to be Fender circuits with tube and/or very minor circuit changes. Fender didn't care; they were selling amps as fast as they could build them.

 

[Engle]

Everyone borrowed from everyone. And everyone learned from everyone else, which is why tube technology grew so quickly. The tube companies were selling tubes, not circuits. The more circuits, the more products which needed tubes.
The early days of transistors were somewhat similar, as were the early days of guitar amps, personal computing, etc. You didn't have someone like Mesa trying to patent every little circuit innovation. Quite a few of the early Gibson amps appear to be Fender circuits with tube and/or very minor circuit changes. Fender didn't care; they were selling amps as fast as they could build them.

The concept of hardware design and details being a secret is relatively new. It was not uncommon for electronic gear to include a schematic and parts list. Even the first Apple computer included a schematic. Now you “buy” the hardware, but often you don’t get the right to know what’s inside.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

The concept of hardware design and details being a secret is relatively new. It was not uncommon for electronic gear to include a schematic and parts list. Even the first Apple computer included a schematic. Now you “buy” the hardware, but often you don’t get the right to know what’s inside.

Roger that. And even when it didn't come with one, you could write the manufacturer and get one. (Or buy one from Sams Photofacts.) I'm pretty annoyed; I had a complete set for all the Ross pedals, and I can't find it. I just called them up (in 1979, IIRC) and asked for the schem for the flanger. They sent me the whole set, just in case I needed them.

 

[RedVee]

yeah and RCA borrowed those from Western Electric..

Yeah, the repair guy was saying that the basic design was a common thing that they all worked from

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Yeah, the repair guy was saying that the basic design was a common thing that they all worked from

do you use it often? be cool to hear it with a T-Bird...

 

[RedVee]

do you use it often? be cool to hear it with a T-Bird...

No, no opportunities at the moment. But it is a very nice warm tone. Having said that; @fasterpussycat suggested the linking of the two channels. Which I did, and haven’t taken off . Different but good different. This amp will be a keeper.

I also have a solid state Eminar (not as nice but ok) which I use more, plus a little Rumble 15. Also sometimes headphones through the zoom b2.1u. Mostly Bassman or Super Bass. But someone listed a B15 fliptop setting, and that’s nice too.

Sometimes I put the zoom ahead of the other amps, and you can tell the settings are different, but better through headphones or direct to a pa.

 

[Klondike]

I called Tucker today, abalonee dote are going on the fb and the sides. Thanks to everyone for your input. It was a tough decision.