Thunderbird Club

[Gaolee]

Yeah. Just always curious how these pedals work for bass. Some great, some not so much.

Reverb and bass is not so hot. I got a wild hair up and tried bowing through the oil can delay. I thought it would be great. It was abysmal. File that one under bad ideas that were not fatal.

 

[Gaolee]

Had to go where i never left.



And this. not tryin to make any other statement other then music is the best.

No other statement necessary.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Should I go Naked?

Thanks. Now where is my "I VOTED" sticker?

 

[Gaolee]

I didn't know!

Neither did I. TB club is educational on top of everything else.

 

[Gaolee]

I joked to her before, that when she gets the reverb, she'll need another drive pedal to balance everything out. She replied she only needs one drive pedal.

Mark this date -- Wednesday 06 March 2019 -- the day a guitarist with taste and restraint was discovered in the wild.

You found a keeper.

 

[GBassNorth]

Yeah. Just always curious how these pedals work for bass. Some great, some not so much.

Ok, just noodled around on the Gibby TBird, Eppi VP and the FrankenGoth with the fat shuga pedal.

First observation - the reverb even at max doesn't really do much in the way of creating depth and fullness like it would on a guitar. Turn it on, max it or leave it off, not that noticeable.

Second observation - the overdrive portion of the pedal is very creamy and thick, not harsh or brittle, not really distorted, just ultra thick.

It played well with the Gibby bird but not much more than I could easily get by just tweaking a couple of my parametric tone controls on the Thunderfunk amp. For this bass, not worth the cost of the pedal.

It took my FrankenGoth to a new high. Recall this bass now has Bart classic pups and an Aggie 2 band preamp. It took a gut punch bass tone to a full frontal lethal assault. In essence this is an overdrive pedal for a bass that has overdrive built in. The stack up of gain systems works very nice in this case and creates a super thick, super solid, super loud, super exaggerated deep bass tone that could easily walk all over the entire band. Used carefully for intros and solos it might be a good pedal to have for active basses. Again the reverb portion of the pedal was a non factor, wouldn't even know it was on without listening very carefully.

On the Eppi VP - I was shocked. I expected results close to the Gibby TBird. NOPE. Very similar to the FrankenGoth except a bit more musical and useable. Still nearly the same massive tone as the FrankenGoth except slightly subdued on the bottom end and enhanced on the top. Ultra solid mid range. May be a perfect pedal to leave on all the time in a metal, hard rock setting where overdrive is desired without losing clarity of the notes.

Conclusion - I'm not much of a pedal guy but I could easily see a place for the Fat Shuga with my VP or Goth on a large number of songs. Not so much the standard Gibby bird. The overdrive is the silver bullet in this pedal. Are there other OD pedals that could sound even better with these basses? Probably, but not many if any at this price, especially with the reverb feature and ability to pull double duty with both bass and guitar.

 

[RedVee]

A few valves to add to the pics floating around

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

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A few valves to add to the pics floating around

very cool. found this pic online. looks like the one on your pic? yours? looks like 100 Watts. more info please!

 

[RedVee]

very cool. found this pic online. looks like the one on your pic? yours? looks like 200 Watts. more info please!

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That is my amp before it arrived to me. (Well, it has the same serial number anyway lol) 100w modded to use a “jug cord” now.

Below from the guy “Rock Dog” that checked it over for me.

Eminar 100 watt bass amp.


All tube circuitry.

Solid state rectifier.

3 x 12AX7 dual triodes.

4 x 6L6 output tubes.

Front panel.


The amp has two channels with shared tone controls. The first channel is voiced for bass and the second for guitar. The two inputs for each channel are either high or low sensitivity.Meaning one input will be louder than the other.


Back panel.


240vac input. Standard IEC power cable.

Power switch and mains fuse (2 amp slow blow)

The main speaker output is wired in parallel with the extension speaker output, so if using a single 8 ohm cab, either socket could be used.

The amp is currently wired for 8 ohm which means 1 x 8ohm cab or 2 x 16 ohm cab could be plugged in. the output transformer has 16, 8 and 4 ohm taps so the amp could be modified with either extra sockets or an impedance selector switch to run different impedance cabs if required.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

That is my amp before it arrived to me. (Well, it has the same serial number anyway lol) 100w modded to use a “jug cord” now.

Below from the guy “Rock Dog” that checked it over for me.

Eminar 100 watt bass amp.


All tube circuitry.

Solid state rectifier.

3 x 12AX7 dual triodes.

4 x 6L6 output tubes.

Front panel.


The amp has two channels with shared tone controls. The first channel is voiced for bass and the second for guitar. The two inputs for each channel are either high or low sensitivity.Meaning one input will be louder than the other.


Back panel.


240vac input. Standard IEC power cable.

Power switch and mains fuse (2 amp slow blow)

The main speaker output is wired in parallel with the extension speaker output, so if using a single 8 ohm cab, either socket could be used.

The amp is currently wired for 8 ohm which means 1 x 8ohm cab or 2 x 16 ohm cab could be plugged in. the output transformer has 16, 8 and 4 ohm taps so the amp could be modified with either extra sockets or an impedance selector switch to run different impedance cabs if required.

Pic of the front panel please? 100W with 4 X 6L6s.....may be Bassman based?.....construction looks solid...

 

[fasterpussycat]

Pic of the front panel please? 100W with 4 X 6L6s.....may be Bassman based?.....construction looks solid...

This may be useful -- Classic ANZ Valve Guitar Amplifiers.

 

[RedVee]

Pic of the front panel please? 100W with 4 X 6L6s.....may be Bassman based?.....construction looks solid...

 

[PillO]

I fill in with this band 4-5 times a year. I do find it somewhat surprising that they don't have O Canada in the book. The folks from the mobile home park are predominantly Ontarioians(?).

Ex-pat Ontarians are fine without O Canada, just as long as you play some Justin Bieber, Celine Dion, Gordon Lightfoot, and Tragically Hip.

Eh.

 

[PillO]

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New Zombie

Pointy metal goodness.

Are those Red Devils on it?

 

[PillO]

I joked to her before, that when she gets the reverb, she'll need another drive pedal to balance everything out. She replied she only needs one drive pedal.

Mark this date -- Wednesday 06 March 2019 -- the day a guitarist with taste and restraint was discovered in the wild.

Perhaps her definition of need is different from everyone elses?

 

[ThaCoast]

I vote inlays. But, I am not the end user/purchaser, so my opinion is meaningless.

Is this going to be fretless or are the frets not present and accounted for yet? I’m in favor of a clean, naked look.
Yes, I know. Harrumph!

Thanks Andii that awesome of you to count it up.

Anytime! In this club alone it's 4 Votes for Inlays, 6 votes No inlays.

 

[BklynKen]

Generally not a fan of reverb or delay on bass. Can work if the arrangement is very sparse, otherwise it tends to get lost or the bass starts sounding indistinct/muddy.

Sorry, I was talking about the overdrive. That's all I use on bass.

Reverb and bass is not so hot. I got a wild hair up and tried bowing through the oil can delay. I thought it would be great. It was abysmal. File that one under bad ideas that were not fatal.

Now this is science.

Ok, just noodled around on the Gibby TBird, Eppi VP and the FrankenGoth with the fat shuga pedal.

First observation - the reverb even at max doesn't really do much in the way of creating depth and fullness like it would on a guitar. Turn it on, max it or leave it off, not that noticeable.

Second observation - the overdrive portion of the pedal is very creamy and thick, not harsh or brittle, not really distorted, just ultra thick.

It played well with the Gibby bird but not much more than I could easily get by just tweaking a couple of my parametric tone controls on the Thunderfunk amp. For this bass, not worth the cost of the pedal.

It took my FrankenGoth to a new high. Recall this bass now has Bart classic pups and an Aggie 2 band preamp. It took a gut punch bass tone to a full frontal lethal assault. In essence this is an overdrive pedal for a bass that has overdrive built in. The stack up of gain systems works very nice in this case and creates a super thick, super solid, super loud, super exaggerated deep bass tone that could easily walk all over the entire band. Used carefully for intros and solos it might be a good pedal to have for active basses. Again the reverb portion of the pedal was a non factor, wouldn't even know it was on without listening very carefully.

On the Eppi VP - I was shocked. I expected results close to the Gibby TBird. NOPE. Very similar to the FrankenGoth except a bit more musical and useable. Still nearly the same massive tone as the FrankenGoth except slightly subdued on the bottom end and enhanced on the top. Ultra solid mid range. May be a perfect pedal to leave on all the time in a metal, hard rock setting where overdrive is desired without losing clarity of the notes.

Conclusion - I'm not much of a pedal guy but I could easily see a place for the Fat Shuga with my VP or Goth on a large number of songs. Not so much the standard Gibby bird. The overdrive is the silver bullet in this pedal. Are there other OD pedals that could sound even better with these basses? Probably, but not many if any at this price, especially with the reverb feature and ability to pull double duty with both bass and guitar.

Thanks for trying all that!

 

[Klondike]

Anytime! In this club alone it's 4 Votes for Inlays, 6 votes No inlays.

So on the Thunderbird Players Group page on FB(you all should be members if you 1) are on FB and 2) are in this sub lol. So over there I asked the same question. Over there the totals are 5 for & 0 naked so that makes a combined total of 9 for inlays and 6 votes Naked.

I think I am going with the inlays. Im mot at 50/50, instead im more like a 60/40 maybe a 65/35.

 

[ToddOfThunder]

playing a Mardi Gras party at an old (mid 1800s) logger bar in the San Lorenzo valley where Sinatra and the Rat Pack used to hang out in the 50s....very cool joint...wish I played (or even owned) an upright when gigs like this come up...what to bring...what to bring..

Wish I could go

 

[Engle]

What do you guys think? With or with out the Abalone Inlays?

Im having a hard time deciding, I really like it each way. So Im asking for All Ya’lls input on this.
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