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Thunderbird Club

Glorious morning here.......
During my commute I can easily see two mountain ranges, the Olympics to the west, and the Cascades to the east. Two dormant volcanos, Mt Rainer and Mt Baker and of course a bit of Puget sound. The railroad tracks are the BNSF (ex Great Northern nee Burlington Northern) that travel north, then east to Chicago.

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very cool...that town is so beautiful when the sun is out..wonder if that building was always Seattle Lighting...
 
There’s a certain price ceiling that I just won’t attempt to bust through. I think that new AEA cardioid ribbon mic is probably priced ‘fairly’ at $1,000. There are mics I’d pay up to $1,500 for, but they’d better be something very special. My AEA R84 is kinda at the lower level of high end mics at $1,100, but they can be found used for about $800 and knowing what I know after years of owning one, the price is a steal. Every major engineer owns a pair and they compare very favorably to mics that cost 4-5x as much. That’s one mic I can honestly say is worth every penny.
But like you, I prefer finding more esoteric, undiscovered pieces of gear. But I’d also rather brag about how little I paid for something than how much I paid, being the product of a blue collar upbringing and all :)
Well, shoot. I guess my GAS list just got another ribbon on it. Good thing I'm happy with pretty much everything else I own. I really want to try an AEA cardioid ribbon, too.

My twin said it best - [wimper] Which translates to, oh, well. I got what I got, and it isn't likely to change.
 
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Glorious morning here.......
During my commute I can easily see two mountain ranges, the Olympics to the west, and the Cascades to the east. Two dormant volcanos, Mt Rainer and Mt Baker and of course a bit of Puget sound. The railroad tracks are the BNSF (ex Great Northern nee Burlington Northern) that travel north, then east to Chicago.

Up60Lwt.jpg
I will be working in the red brick building that comes to a point just to the right of the tire billboard in the middle of the picture. There's no excuse for me not rounding up Veronica and making a pilgrimage to Emerald City Guitars to see the Thunderbird they have. Whether it's unmodified, overpriced, or what.

There should be a Subaru stashed down by the tracks for the occasionally necessary quick getaway.
 
very cool...that town is so beautiful when the sun is out..wonder if that building was always Seattle Lighting...

Working downtown has it's problems to be sure, but when I come up from my train and get this view, it's pretty inspiring! I've lived here all but the first two years of my life.
Here's a picture from the late '20s looking north up 2nd Ave., the building has been here since 1917, before second avenue was extended the block was square shaped and there was an Armour meat packing plant here. The city decided to realign 2nd Ave. to cut through the center of the block thus creating the trapezoid, the packing plant was demolished and our building put in it's place. Note the small gas station in what is now our parking lot for customers.

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Glorious morning here.......
During my commute I can easily see two mountain ranges, the Olympics to the west, and the Cascades to the east. Two dormant volcanos, Mt Rainer and Mt Baker and of course a bit of Puget sound. The railroad tracks are the BNSF (ex Great Northern nee Burlington Northern) that travel north, then east to Chicago.

Up60Lwt.jpg
V - don't look now, but it looks like about half the bulbs are burned out on the Seattle Lighting and Fixture Company sign. ;)
 
Working downtown has it's problems to be sure, but when I come up from my train and get this view, it's pretty inspiring! I've lived here all but the first two years of my life.
Here's a picture from the late '20s looking north up 2nd Ave., the building has been here since 1917, before second avenue was extended the block was square shaped and there was an Armour meat packing plant here. The city decided to realign 2nd Ave. to cut through the center of the block thus creating the trapezoid, the packing plant was demolished and our building put in it's place. Note the small gas station in what is now our parking lot for customers.

gHXM3Jl.jpg
love those old shots. you guys manufacturers? distributors?
 
Well, shoot. I guess my GAS list just got another ribbon on it. Good thing I'm happy with pretty much everything else I own. I really want to try an AEA cardioid ribbon, too.

My twin said it best - [wimper] Which translates to, oh, well. I got what I got, and it isn't likely to change.

The good news is a great performance of a great song is really hard to mess up, no matter how much or little the gear costs. My favorite drum recordings I’ve ever done (with one exception) have all been on the best drummers. The one exception happened to be in a room I absolutely love for rock drums and the drummer was very well rehearsed on the material we recorded.

I just listened to a shootout of about 15 mics on a solo jazz upright bass player. The mics used ranged from an RE-20 at the low end ($500), to mics costing over $10k (AKG C24, Neumann U47). At least 6-8 of em were AEA mics. Sadly, when I did a blind listening test, my absolute favorites were the C24 and the AEA KU4 ($12k+ and $5k, respectively). BUT, every mic sounded good, because it was a great player in a great sounding room with a seriously nice upright bass. The R84 held its own, I thought, which was comforting since mine is long paid for :)
 
love those old shots. you guys manufacturers? distributors?

Both, we work with at least 400 manufacturers and have our own in house product lines as well, stores in western WA, around Portland, and Bend OR, Boise ID and Dallas TX. The stores outside of WA are called by other names, Globe Lighting in OR, Builders Lighting in ID and Melatio Lighting in Dallas.
 
Working downtown has it's problems to be sure, but when I come up from my train and get this view, it's pretty inspiring! I've lived here all but the first two years of my life.
Here's a picture from the late '20s looking north up 2nd Ave., the building has been here since 1917, before second avenue was extended the block was square shaped and there was an Armour meat packing plant here. The city decided to realign 2nd Ave. to cut through the center of the block thus creating the trapezoid, the packing plant was demolished and our building put in it's place. Note the small gas station in what is now our parking lot for customers.

gHXM3Jl.jpg
The Frye Hotel is still there. The apartment building next to it now, directly across the street (Yesler) from the Smith Tower, was built in the mid-zeros. It was a project I was involved in. We had our job office in the building across 2nd from the jobsite, in a building that's still boarded up. It burned while we had our job office there. Apparently, somebody tossed a cigarette into the wrong trash bin in the convenience store that was in the corner part of that building. That was only one of many issues we had - floods, plagues of rats, a person who dove into the jobsite from the Frye (with very bad results). There was a concrete strike that screwed up the schedule completely. It is a daily reminder that I don't miss running construction projects!
 
The good news is a great performance of a great song is really hard to mess up, no matter how much or little the gear costs. My favorite drum recordings I’ve ever done (with one exception) have all been on the best drummers. The one exception happened to be in a room I absolutely love for rock drums and the drummer was very well rehearsed on the material we recorded.

I just listened to a shootout of about 15 mics on a solo jazz upright bass player. The mics used ranged from an RE-20 at the low end ($500), to mics costing over $10k (AKG C24, Neumann U47). At least 6-8 of em were AEA mics. Sadly, when I did a blind listening test, my absolute favorites were the C24 and the AEA KU4 ($12k+ and $5k, respectively). BUT, every mic sounded good, because it was a great player in a great sounding room with a seriously nice upright bass. The R84 held its own, I thought, which was comforting since mine is long paid for :)
That demonstrates why it really doesn't matter what mics I use. The room is a challenge at best, and we are all day job types with adequate instruments. I will never be Ron Carter or Elvin Jones, because I'll never put in the kind of time it takes to play like they do/did. The same is true everyone else who is likely to be recorded in the Basement of Bad Ideas.
 
Both, we work with at least 400 manufacturers and have our own in house product lines as well, stores in western WA, around Portland, and Bend OR, Boise ID and Dallas TX. The stores outside of WA are called by other names, Globe Lighting in OR, Builders Lighting in ID and Melatio Lighting in Dallas.
do you guys work with Cree? lighting sales must have spiked when they passed the cannabis laws up there...it's a whole new industry down here..
 
That demonstrates why it really doesn't matter what mics I use. The room is a challenge at best, and we are all day job types with adequate instruments. I will never be Ron Carter or Elvin Jones, because I'll never put in the kind of time it takes to play like they do/did. The same is true everyone else who is likely to be recorded in the Basement of Bad Ideas.

I totally get that. I also love that a good T Bird can be directly plugged into pretty anything and will sound very nice.
Your proclivity toward ribbon mics is smart because one of their best attributes is that they’re more forgiving of less than stellar rooms
 
yeah, was going to ask you, what kind of oil do you use for the FB? guess one of the nice things of maple FBs is no need for oil..
I use D'Addario Hydrate fingerboard conditioner on all my rosewood, wenge, pao ferro and Ebony boards. Sprayed on and immediately buffed dry with a micro fiber towel. I don't like to let the liquid soak in, just trying to keep the surface from drying out. Maple is sealed so it just gets a bit of warm soapy water every now and then to clean off the grunge.

Sounds to me like you got a keeper. And, those strings sound like they are a good option. One more to put in the "try someday" hopper.

You get your action far lower than I ever do. If my action was 1/16" at the 12th fret, the sound would be absolutely awful, as hard as I sometimes play. I don't have it that low on plain old guitars, for the same reason. Being CroMagnon is my excuse for preferring a somewhat higher action.

Strictly a finger player here (mostly up between the neck heel and neck pup, and mostly with the tone knob about half up) but I do in fact dig in very hard on a number of songs and passages. I suspect the Hellbourg strings are higher tension than what I had on before and that's allowed me to drop the action a bit. Last night I was detecting a hint of chorus effect on notes between the 12th and last fret, may need to drop the pups a bit more now that the strings are lower. She'll get a long hard rough flogging today, that'll be the string keeper test.
 
do you guys work with Cree? lighting sales must have spiked when they passed the cannabis laws up there...it's a whole new industry down here..

Cree is in bed with the big box stores, they don't like us! :laugh:
 
Glorious morning here.......
During my commute I can easily see two mountain ranges, the Olympics to the west, and the Cascades to the east. Two dormant volcanos, Mt Rainer and Mt Baker and of course a bit of Puget sound. The railroad tracks are the BNSF (ex Great Northern nee Burlington Northern) that travel north, then east to Chicago.

Up60Lwt.jpg
We must have different standards on what constitutes mountains. I don't even see any steep hills in your photo. :thumbsup:;):roflmao:
 
Strictly a finger player here (mostly up between the neck heel and neck pup, and mostly with the tone knob about half up) but I do in fact dig in very hard on a number of songs and passages. I suspect the Hellbourg strings are higher tension than what I had on before and that's allowed me to drop the action a bit. Last night I was detecting a hint of chorus effect on notes between the 12th and last fret, may need to drop the pups a bit more now that the strings are lower. She'll get a long hard rough flogging today, that'll be the string keeper test.
There's a reason the pickups were as low as possible when you got it. That's where they typically need to be to avoid amp weirdness. Beats me what that's all about.

I just flat don't know how you deal with such low action. Then again, I have never had action that low, nor have I ever tried to get it that low.
 
There's a reason the pickups were as low as possible when you got it. That's where they typically need to be to avoid amp weirdness. Beats me what that's all about.

I just flat don't know how you deal with such low action. Then again, I have never had action that low, nor have I ever tried to get it that low.

I'm one of those low action freaks. Both my Birds have stupid low action, no buzzing what so ever. I'm also not heavy handed, so i seem to get away with it.