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Thunderbird Club

You and the conductor probably confused everyone by discussing wearing a kilt for an Irish holiday. I'm sure @fasterpussycat would be happy* to school you on why Scots are not Irish.

But...

Hmmmmm...Irish wear kilts too..usually not in tartan patterns but kilts nevertheless, they also have their version of the bagpipe..

Correct :thumbsup:

(Except I’m pretty sure I have seen some tartan ones)

Yeah. And it's even weirder.:wacky:

You saw weirder, I say betterer :laugh:
 
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Modern tartans were invented in the 19th century. As such I would claim no family association with one -- just pick one you like.
What do you mean by “modern”? While the Scots didn’t invent them, tartans spread widely in Scotland throughout much of the 1500s.
 
What do you mean by “modern”? While the Scots didn’t invent them, tartans spread widely in Scotland throughout much of the 1500s.

Those patterns claimed to be associated with one or other 'clan' are mostly Romantic fabrications dating from the tartan craze which grew up around Walter Scott's Waverley books and the visit of George IV to Scotland, which lives on in the shortbread tin lid vision of Scottish history (as seen in the tat shops lining the length of the Royal Mile).
 
Those patterns claimed to be associated with one or other 'clan' are mostly Romantic fabrications dating from the tartan craze which grew up around Walter Scott's Waverley books and the visit of George IV to Scotland, which lives on in the shortbread tin lid vision of Scottish history (as seen in the tat shops lining the length of the Royal Mile).
Mmmmmmm… All butter shortbread... :drool:
 
Those patterns claimed to be associated with one or other 'clan' are mostly Romantic fabrications dating from the tartan craze which grew up around Walter Scott's Waverley books and the visit of George IV to Scotland, which lives on in the shortbread tin lid vision of Scottish history (as seen in the tat shops lining the length of the Royal Mile).
My grandmother was very into being a descendant of the Murray clan. There are two tartans for them, Athol and Tullibardene (sp?), she used to wear her Athol colors and pin for special occasions. I loved my grandmother... but for my part I picture Scots of old as the colorful guys and gals waiting on the other side of Hadrian's Wall for some hapless centurion to end up on the wrong side of. Poor bastard..
 
My grandmother was very into being a descendant of the Murray clan. There are two tartans for them, Athol and Tullibardene (sp?), she used to wear her Athol colors and pin for special occasions. I loved my grandmother... but for my part I picture Scots of old as the colorful guys and gals waiting on the other side of Hadrian's Wall for some hapless centurion to end up on the wrong side of. Poor bastard..
My impression of Scots is largely based on stereotypes like these:





As well as Fat Bastard, and Kat.

Not good sources, but what I have been exposed to...
 
Those patterns claimed to be associated with one or other 'clan' are mostly Romantic fabrications dating from the tartan craze which grew up around Walter Scott's Waverley books and the visit of George IV to Scotland, which lives on in the shortbread tin lid vision of Scottish history (as seen in the tat shops lining the length of the Royal Mile).
Tartans were a big deal well before that, especially in the highlands. They were banned after the Battle of Culloden in (I believe) 1746. By the time the ban was repealed ~40 years later, most Scots had lost interest and the patterns (which had been rigorously defined) were eventually lost. When interest returned in the 1800s, they had to be worked out (or guessed at) again.

Modern day tartans are a cash crop. Prices are nuts. And anyone can get an official (protected) tartan; the company I work for has one.
 
My grandmother was very into being a descendant of the Murray clan. There are two tartans for them, Athol and Tullibardene (sp?), she used to wear her Athol colors and pin for special occasions. I loved my grandmother... but for my part I picture Scots of old as the colorful guys and gals waiting on the other side of Hadrian's Wall for some hapless centurion to end up on the wrong side of. Poor bastard..
friendly bunch...last time I was in Edinburgh I drank free single malt all night just for reciting parts of Burns' Tam-o-Shanter..."the yank knows Rabbie!"....."good health mate!" clink..clink....way coool...
 
Here's a dramatization of a centurion falling off the top of Hadrian's wall, to the horrors that await below. He knows which side he's going over, obviously...

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Lolol...