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If I understood what I read on here s gazillion pages back, when a pickup is taken out of a circuit the result is ‘better*’ than it is just turned down to zero.

Is that the case when a switch is used to default to the other pickup ? ...

Yes, because that’s what the switch is doing- taking one pickup completely out of the circuit. The second p/u is just decoration or thumb rest at that point.
 
If I understood what I read on here s gazillion pages back, when a pickup is taken out of a circuit the result is ‘better*’ than it is just turned down to zero.

Is that the case when a switch is used to default to the other pickup ?

* better is not a definitive description I know. Perhaps ’stronger’ or ‘louder’ is a better description?


Having a couple purpose built II's I would describe the difference as just being "different" not necessarily better than a two pickup Bird with/without the second pup. In my situation I would say "Horses for Courses" would apply, each has their place for me depending on our set list and if I know the stage and room characteristics of the venue.
More later....
 
Aren't the tuning machines on the VP's different on some? What I mean is, it seams the first VP's to come out where known to have a good quality Wilkerson tuners, didn't Epiphone switch them with a lesser expensive one? if so how do we recognize them. Also is there an accurate way of getting information on the "birth" date of our beloved VP's? I know all to well the level of customer service Epiphone is famous for.

Thanks in advance
 
If I understood what I read on here s gazillion pages back, when a pickup is taken out of a circuit the result is ‘better*’ than it is just turned down to zero.

Is that the case when a switch is used to default to the other pickup ?

* better is not a definitive description I know. Perhaps ’stronger’ or ‘louder’ is a better description?
I’ll answer the question I can: A selector switch usually takes one pickup and it’s pot completely out of the circuit.
 
Aren't the tuning machines on the VP's different on some? What I mean is, it seams the first VP's to come out where known to have a good quality Wilkerson tuners, didn't Epiphone switch them with a lesser expensive one? if so how do we recognize them. Also is there an accurate way of getting information on the "birth" date of our beloved VP's? I know all to well the level of customer service Epiphone is famous for.

Thanks in advance
When I got my VP, I did a google search on Epiphone serial numbers, and found out pretty quickly where and when.

Did you get the white “parts” VP? How’s that headstock break look?
 
It would depend on the strings (gauge and composition) and action.
I wonder what strings Gibson put on new Thunderbirds in 1964?
good point....wonder if BaCHs have less of a problem since there seems to be more saddle travel in their bridge...my II intonates no problem with RS66...
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Aren't the tuning machines on the VP's different on some? What I mean is, it seams the first VP's to come out where known to have a good quality Wilkerson tuners, didn't Epiphone switch them with a lesser expensive one? if so how do we recognize them. Also is there an accurate way of getting information on the "birth" date of our beloved VP's? I know all to well the level of customer service Epiphone is famous for.

Thanks in advance

Easy way to tell on the tuners is the early VP’s did not have a taper on the string posts. The later ones do.
 
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Don't know where you were at 8:41 but we just had a pretty dramatic tremor here in Pacifica. 3.6, epicenter 6 miles from me in Colma "City of the Dead". (yes, it shook the dead) Colma is called that because of huge acreage of land dedicated to cemeteries. Haven't felt a quake in quite a while and they are usually more of a 'nudge' - this was a dramatic rattler. (luckily short and not followed by more) Life in CA.
 
Don't know where you were at 8:41 but we just had a pretty dramatic tremor here in Pacifica. 3.6, epicenter 6 miles from me in Colma "City of the Dead". (yes, it shook the dead) Colma is called that because of huge acreage of land dedicated to cemeteries. Haven't felt a quake in quite a while and they are usually more of a 'nudge' - this was a dramatic rattler. (luckily short and not followed by more) Life in CA.
didn't feel anything...may have been on the bridge..
 
didn't feel anything...may have been on the bridge..

A cyclist friend was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge when the last big quake occurred in '89. He said it looked like giant invisible hands were strumming the vertical cables like a harp.
 
A cyclist friend was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge when the last big quake occurred in '89. He said it looked like giant invisible hands were strumming the vertical cables like a harp.
i believe it, I was up poolside at a friend’s house in Ben Lomond (SC mountains) and the the quake created this GNARLY tidal wave...never seen anything like it...we were stuck up there with no food for over 3 days...
 
i believe it, I was up poolside at a friend’s house in Ben Lomond (SC mountains) and the the quake created this GNARLY tidal wave...never seen anything like it...we were stuck up there with no food for over 3 days...

A wave in the pool? Yes, that would be 360 degrees of experience! Were the roads there so damaged you couldn't exit?