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Thunderbird Club

#167,621
dagrev said:
Got to play today at church. In practing last night with the burst VP with Cobalts and got tired of my fingers hurting and put some more finger friendly strings on for Sunday. The Rotos 66 sounded great today and my fingers thanked me.;):whistle: Rotos may have earned a spot on one of the VPs.
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If it is cobalt allergy, it may get worse over time. It may not be worth tempting fate. Would Roto 77s or Chromes be an acceptable substitute?


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I'm loving Roto 66s on the thunderbird tuned DGCF. They have a great aggressive sound. My only complaint about them is that they are a bit floppy (not unworkable, just prefer less floppy). I may try DDTs.
 
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#167,622
dagrev said:
Got to play today at church. In practing last night with the burst VP with Cobalts and got tired of my fingers hurting and put some more finger friendly strings on for Sunday. The Rotos 66 sounded great today and my fingers thanked me.;):whistle: Rotos may have earned a spot on one of the VPs.
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I played about five hours today, including about an hour on the ‘15 with the Cobalt flats. I just don’t understand your Princess Fingers Club complaints.
 
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PillO said:
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If it is cobalt allergy, it may get worse over time. It may not be worth tempting fate. Would Roto 77s or Chromes be an acceptable substitute?


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I'm loving Roto 66s on the thunderbird tuned DGCF. They have a great aggressive sound. My only complaint about them is that they are a bit floppy (not unworkable, just prefer less floppy). I may try DDTs.
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Before I begin let me preface my reply by...
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I do believe it's some kind of reaction. The strings feel smooth, yet my fingers begin to feel sore the more I play. Not painful by any means, but something I notice that I don't notice with any other string.

I do like Roto 77s and might give them a try again on the VP. As I recall, they sounded really good when I first tried them on the first VP. So far the 66s offer a bigness and punch that I like. They do more than the angry piano sound.
 
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MCF said:
I played about five hours today, including about an hour on the ‘15 with the Cobalt flats. I just don’t understand your Princess Fingers Club complaints.
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I don't think it's the texture but the composition that doesn't go will with my composition. When I first being to play them they feel really great. But, as I play something weird happens. My loss as they sound really good if not great.
 
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dagrev said:
I don't think it's the texture but the composition that doesn't go will with my composition. When I first being to play them they feel really great. But, as I play something weird happens. My loss as they sound really good if not great.
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That is pretty much the experience I had. I have a couple of oddball contact sensitivities. I think I may have to add cobalt to the list.

Could be worse; could be allergic to nickel.
 
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I've not had any issues with my Cobalt Flats but I did read a post somewhere on TB that complained about the strings pulling the hair off their arms if they brushed against them the wrong way. If that's true there might be some circumstances where the gap in the outer winding is large enough to expose a sharp edge and irritate fingers while playing. Do members in the Princess club experience soreness in both the playing and fretting hands? From a contact standpoint if you don't play with a pick I'd guess that your first two fingers on your right hand actually come in contact with the cobalt more than any two fingers on your left hand. Which fingers in the princess club seem to be most effected?
 
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dagrev said:
Got to play today at church. In practing last night with the burst VP with Cobalts and got tired of my fingers hurting and put some more finger friendly strings on for Sunday. The Rotos 66 sounded great today and my fingers thanked me.;):whistle: Rotos may have earned a spot on one of the VPs.
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I switched off the Roto 77s from my Pro V a while back to 66s, it made a huge difference. I don't normally like plain (non-coated/ -taped) roundwounds, but they just sound too good on it to swap them for something else :thumbsup:
 
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PillO said:
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If it is cobalt allergy, it may get worse over time. It may not be worth tempting fate. Would Roto 77s or Chromes be an acceptable substitute?


Second:
I'm loving Roto 66s on the thunderbird tuned DGCF. They have a great aggressive sound. My only complaint about them is that they are a bit floppy (not unworkable, just prefer less floppy). I may try DDTs.
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what gauge of Rotos are you using? I have a Jazz tuned to DGCF using 50-110 Rotosound 66’s and they have really good tension. Though I would not tune them up to E-Standard.
 
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BklynKen said:
Sounded great to me.

Also funny (read: not) that Martin Bisi never said one word about me using a Thunderbird. Haven't there been reports here about recording engineers complaining about recording Thunderbirds?
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Obviously a pro. Lazy engineers 'know' how to record a P. Good engineers aren't afraid to make adjustments.
 
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#167,636
dagrev said:
I've always been fond of trains. Both of my grandfathers worked for L&N (one an electrician the other an engineer), as well as an uncle and a cousin. The part of town I grew up in many of the men (working and retired) worked for the railroad. As a kid before being bitten by the music bug I thought I would surely end up working at the railroad. Neither one worked out as a profession! I enjoy looking at that massive beasts and thinking about all the places they've been. Somewhat related I like collecting old pocket watches that were approved for railroad use. Talk about beautiful and detailed.
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My Uncle’s first job at about 15 was to wake up the train drivers at stupid o’clock in the morning at Mudgee. They got him onto shunting the trains around and then short trips. After he did a trip 100+ kms up the line and back they made him a train driver.

BTW I have a Grandfathers Pocket Watch. A circa 1901 American Waltham. I believe they were a common watch in the day. I love the ‘hunting case’.
I’ll get it going again one day.

edit: that was 1936 I think re waking up the train drivers. My Grandfather got a transfer at work and moved the family minus the 3eldest (including Dad) in Mudgee when the rest of the family moved. They found Dad an apprenticeship as a tailor and he left school after 2nd form / year 8.
 
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GBassNorth said:
I've not had any issues with my Cobalt Flats but I did read a post somewhere on TB that complained about the strings pulling the hair off their arms if they brushed against them the wrong way. If that's true there might be some circumstances where the gap in the outer winding is large enough to expose a sharp edge and irritate fingers while playing. Do members in the Princess club experience soreness in both the playing and fretting hands? From a contact standpoint if you don't play with a pick I'd guess that your first two fingers on your right hand actually come in contact with the cobalt more than any two fingers on your left hand. Which fingers in the princess club seem to be most effected?
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It is certainly worse on the plucking hand. On the fretting hand, the index finger is worst, but not as bad as the plucking hand. Also the thumb of the plucking hand which rests on the E string when other strings are being played. Lends credence the theory that it is a contact sensitivity of some kind.
 
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GBassNorth said:
I've not had any issues with my Cobalt Flats but I did read a post somewhere on TB that complained about the strings pulling the hair off their arms if they brushed against them the wrong way. If that's true there might be some circumstances where the gap in the outer winding is large enough to expose a sharp edge and irritate fingers while playing. Do members in the Princess club experience soreness in both the playing and fretting hands? From a contact standpoint if you don't play with a pick I'd guess that your first two fingers on your right hand actually come in contact with the cobalt more than any two fingers on your left hand. Which fingers in the princess club seem to be most effected?
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Yes, my soreness is in both hands, but more so in the left I would say. The more the finger is used in playing, the more a soreness appears. I use my pinky finger on my left hand, but not as much as the others and it is less affected.

As for that hair thing. It's true. As I recall, TI flats have a little of that as well.
 
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