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Thunderbird Club

Yah, but those were newly designed basses. I more was addressing a (vintage) model that was "re-introduced" with non original/non Gibson style ingredients. Until the Epi VP, the gen1 T-bird was never truly re-introduced and now the Gibson NR appears w/a bridge that was never on a late '60s bird. The more recent Fender and Gibson design flip-flops were almost tongue-in-cheek parodies of each other.
maybe they favor the three point because it actually intonates?
 
didn’t The Saint drive the coupe? the little wagon wins it for me.....so unique...Saab Sonets were pretty cool too..

you bet - and I agree

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Love P1800's. Don't know if I could get into-or out of-one now.
I read an article in C&D about 3 years ago listing them as a car that could come back as is(design wise) and sell. Timeless.

Couldn't agree more, but after seeing the "modernized" Ford Thunderbird return :rollno:... Volvo alluded to the hatchback with their recent C-30 (discontinued)

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Wow, nice. The Antigua finish is one of the very few that would tempt me towards a Fender.
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I saw the Outlaws and one time they all had or many had Fender's with that Antigua finish, or so it seemed. Under the lights they looked like a really pretty darker grey fading to a nice whiteish color. I thought they looked really cool. Seeing that finish up close years later it took on more of an odd pea green color--one I personally don't care for at all. I'm not sure if they were greenish originally then or not or the Outlaws had some custom pain jobs (which would seem odd for them to bother with). I thinks that finish is either a love it or hate it kind of thing. But if you love it, I certainly hope you find one!
 
I've owned a number of VWs and really enjoyed them all for what they were, a basic and durable little car thats cheap to own and has a personality that makes every little drive an experience (some good some bad).


And no bug owner in freezing weather would be caught dead without a hand held ice scraper - for the INSIDE of the windshield. The front defroster was on the same exhaust manifold heating system as the rest of the car but in sub zero weather it would take a good 15 minutes of driving to get warm enough to even begin to defrost the front window.

I can attest to this fact! I first drove a VW in Alaska in the middle of winter to a HS Swimming party. The guy that owned the bug was to drunk(like I wasn't) but i drove us home from a home in the mountains, having to keep scrapping the inside of the wind shields. The radio sucked and I was cold because it was January. But there was something special about that trip.
 
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I saw the Outlaws and one time they all had or many had Fender's with that Antigua finish, or so it seemed. Under the lights they looked like a really pretty darker grey fading to a nice whiteish color. I thought they looked really cool. Seeing that finish up close years later it took on more of an odd pea green color--one I personally don't care for at all. I'm not sure if they were greenish originally then or not or the Outlaws had some custom pain jobs (which would seem odd for them to bother with). I thinks that finish is either a love it or hate it kind of thing. But if you love it, I certainly hope you find one!
Yeah, to each their own. I really like that greenish tint to the Antigua finish.
 
not sure, never tried a VP...that said, had to get a Badbird for my Gen 1 cause the one on there was dog doo doo...problem I never had with a three point...
I think at least a couple of people in this club have noted they can't intonate the E string on the VP due to lack of backwards travel. I haven't had a problem with mine but I did note the E string side of the bridge does sit further back from the neck than the G string side.
 
I think at least a couple of people in this club have noted they can't intonate the E string on the VP due to lack of backwards travel. I haven't had a problem with mine but I did note the E string side of the bridge does sit further back from the neck than the G string side.
any intonation issues with your BaCH? none with mine..
 
I think at least a couple of people in this club have noted they can't intonate the E string on the VP due to lack of backwards travel. I haven't had a problem with mine but I did note the E string side of the bridge does sit further back from the neck than the G string side.
It’s an issue mostly with strings above .105 gauge I think.
 
I can attest to this fact! I first drove a VW in Alaska in the middle of winter to a HS Swimming party. The guy that owned the bug was to drunk(like I wasn't) but i drove us home from a home in the mountains, having to keep scrapping the inside of the wind shields. The radio sucked and I was cold because it was January. But there was something special about that trip.
Where’d you go swimming?
 
not sure, never tried a VP...that said, had to get a Badbird for my Gen 1 cause the one on there was dog doo doo...problem I never had with a three point...

The only issue related to the original '60s T-bird (both gen1 '63-'65 and gen2 '65-'68) bridge was the depth which was too narrow to allow correct intonation. Scotts Badbird and the Epi VP bridge are wider/deeper which allows the bass to be intoned correctly. That style/design also allows the bass to be re-strung w/o worrying that the saddles would fall out while doing so and is still used today in many different applications for guitar and bass. The Gibson 3-point is a more idiosyncratic design that Scott Dasson, Hipshot and Babicz re-designed to make it useable/acceptable. They all "work" but comparing them as efficient/successful designs - the Gibson 3-point comes in dead last. YOMV
 
I think at least a couple of people in this club have noted they can't intonate the E string on the VP due to lack of backwards travel. I haven't had a problem with mine but I did note the E string side of the bridge does sit further back from the neck than the G string side.

Didn't know this - I only know about Scott's BB bridge which allows full/correct intonation on my '64 II. If it didn't - I would have returned it.