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All these wonderful heads and cabs makes me a little sad. My '90s V-4B that I have in my home office has died! I was playing and the sound just went away. Tried it again later several times and can't get a thing out of it.:crying: It had new tubes installed about 3 yrs ago and a grid resistor just before I got it from a TBer. It was always more quite than my trusty V-4BH (same 100w head), which was not a problem since I just had this as a back up and for home use. The store that had my trusted amp tech closed and I have no idea where he's at. Going to have to find someone when this gift from another region is under control. Why can't I live in SoCal or better Chucky live in Ky?:rollno:

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Sounds like a good reason to get a Traynor 100 to me......
 
Yeah. I’m willing to road trip up north to drop it and my Carvin for some TLC and again to pick them up. Better if one of you have a gig that night...

I'm hoping for the best - if not when dropping it off, better chance when picking it up! :)
 
All these wonderful heads and cabs makes me a little sad. My '90s V-4B that I have in my home office has died! I was playing and the sound just went away. Tried it again later several times and can't get a thing out of it.:crying: It had new tubes installed about 3 yrs ago and a grid resistor just before I got it from a TBer. It was always more quite than my trusty V-4BH (same 100w head), which was not a problem since I just had this as a back up and for home use. The store that had my trusted amp tech closed and I have no idea where he's at. Going to have to find someone when this gift from another region is under control. Why can't I live in SoCal or better Chucky live in Ky?:rollno:

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time for a trip to KY!.. bet you we can troubleshoot remote...doesn’t do anything at all? No lights? PM me...
 
Yeah. I’m willing to road trip up north to drop it and my Carvin for some TLC and again to pick them up. Better if one of you have a gig that night...
@Chucky Stiletti
you guys are too cool. happy to help any way I can. playing a gig on Sunday and off on Monday...whatever works Marshall..
 
you guys are too cool. happy to help any way I can. playing a gig on Sunday and off on Monday...whatever works Marshall..

No, no, no - credit where credit due - you are the man. I'm so happy that you sorted my Ashdown 550 Spyder - I love that amp! It's been.., hibernating for the last year but it will be rockin' in the (hopefully) free world soon! I got my 1st Covid shot today - on the road to a better tomorrow. :bassist:
 
No, no, no - credit where credit due - you are the man. I'm so happy that you sorted my Ashdown 550 Spyder - I love that amp! It's been.., hibernating for the last year but it will be rockin' in the (hopefully) free world soon! I got my 1st Covid shot today - on the road to a better tomorrow. :bassist:

Happy to say I got my second shot 0n 2/8.......Yay!
 
The last line they did, the MB series of heads and combos, were decent enough. Two channel amps with a vintage tube amp preamp circuit and a modern ss preamp circuit. The one I have I picked up awhile back for $125.00. 60 Watts. 12” driver. It needs servicing, which I’ll look into when the Pandemic is over. Know of anyone who does good work in CA? I’m willing to road trip up north to drop it off...

In the LA area, I've had very good experiences with Revamp, they've worked on my Marshall and brought my Hiwatt back to life.
 
Nicely played sir!
I'm quite familiar with the heavenly fridge killer sound of the NV610. In fact before I switched to the SVT head I had an Aggie DB750 up top. The SVT/Berg has been part of my big rig for quite a while, unfortunately I don't play out anymore so they're really just gathering dust. I should probably sell them to someone that can put them to good use. My home cab that I play almost daily is an HT-322 Berg that just sounds so nice and can get plenty loud for any venue I'd ever be in if I started gigging again. A couple of us bird brains here have the 322.
Which Bergs are you using for your double stack?

This head pairs perfectly with the Berg cabs..I was using the HP Forte at gigs before the shut down.Light weight and butt kickin’
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I discovered an amazing coincidence in my speaker cabinet:

[Preface]
Since owning an SVT-CL (with H810) the treble knob has stayed at zero (for me, treble on the amp and/or tone on the instrument must be cut severely, and after experimenting with these two I decided to leave the treble knob at zero).

Love the above, even its trademark thickness, but wanting an alternative with clearer lows - I mean severely, perfectly clear - I bought a current model Class D amp and cab with a 15" (and one or more smaller drivers). Oh, it performs perfectly as designed.

But predictably, even with the treble turned down with the available controls it retains a sharpness that I needed to work on. First thought was an outboard EQ unit (a James stack (plus a gain recovery stage) in the effects loop would probably be enough), but first decided to try disconnecting the cab's smaller drivers.

It isn't safe for the amp, depending on the type, to just disconnect those, so I prepared to replace one or more of them with non-inductive power resistors. Upon investigating their impedences, and the crossover (Googling as I went because I'm not an expert), I discovered the following very convenient coincidence:
[END Preface]

With a first-order speaker crossover at 800Hz, the location and slope of the treble cut in the signal going to the low end is very close to that of the James (SVT-CL) treble control set to zero! (This is according to the Duncan Tone Stack Simulator of the James stack with the circuit values set to be the same as in the SVT-CL. It's 6dB/octave and down about 16dB at 4kHz.)
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The result is a rig whose sound is *exactly* what I had asked for. I'm very relieved that the money wasn't wasted. Very lucky.

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There are more consequences for me:
-I'm confident that the decision to reduce the number of drivers (to reduce the complexity of their interactions) was correct for me (with the 810 a distinctive alternate).
-I'm sure that I prefer a smooth rolloff of the highs (just as the enclosure shapes a smooth rolloff of the lows) instead of the (ragged) natural rolloff of the driver (which adds a voice that I don't need for bass).
-So I think that most of the pressure is removed from the selection of the *exact* 15" driver with the perfect voice in that sense; all of the popular ones will have enough highs, which will probably be smoothly rolled off anyway.
- As I'm never ("Never say never"? Wrong this time.), NEVER going into a Class D amp to try to mould it as I would a tube amp, I am resting comfortably with this new amp as a pure "black box".
-I have another all-tube amp, currently in pieces and needing a rebuild (to convert it from circuit boards and too-small components to old-fashioned construction that I can work with), which (according to my knowledge and according to how it sounded) should have much tighter speaker damping than an SVT, but it can go on a back burner now. No pressure to get it back together, as this new amp is performing this function. I took it apart to improve hum and noise (which I know I can do), but I'm kinda sick of that scene. Life is short, etc.

It's a lot off of my mind!

All of this is for the sake of my Embassy Pro (among others), which is a member in good standing of the THUNDERBIRD family. :)
 
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I discovered an amazing coincidence in my speaker cabinet:

[Preface]
Since owning an SVT-CL (with H810) the treble knob has stayed at zero (for me, treble on the amp and/or tone on the instrument must be cut severely, and after experimenting with these two I decided to leave the treble knob at zero).

Love the above, even its trademark thickness, but wanting an alternative with clearer lows - I mean severely, perfectly clear - I bought a current model Class D amp and cab with a 15" (and one or more smaller drivers). Oh, it performs perfectly as designed.

But predictably, even with the treble turned down with the available controls it retains a sharpness that I needed to work on. First thought was an outboard EQ unit (a James stack (plus a gain recovery stage) in the effects loop would probably be enough), but first decided to try disconnecting the cab's smaller drivers.

It isn't safe for the amp, depending on the type, to just disconnect those, so I prepared to replace one or more of them with non-inductive power resistors. Upon investigating their impedences, and the crossover (Googling as I went because I'm not an expert), I discovered the following very convenient coincindence:
[END Preface]

With a first-order speaker crossover at 800Hz, the location and slope of the treble cut in the signal going to the low end is very close to that of the James (SVT-CL) treble control set to zero! (This is according to the Duncan Tone Stack Simulator of the James stack with the circuit values set to be the same as in the SVT-CL. It's 6dB/octave and down about 16dB at 4kHz.)
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The result is a rig whose sound is *exactly* what I had asked for. I'm very relieved that the money wasn't wasted. Very lucky.

***
There are more consequences for me:
-I'm confident that the decision to reduce the number of drivers (to reduce the complexity of their interactions) was correct for me (with the 810 a distinctive alternate).
-I'm sure that I prefer a smooth rolloff of the highs (just as the enclosure shapes a smooth rolloff of the lows) instead of the (ragged) natural rolloff of the driver (which adds a voice that I don't need for bass).
-So I think that most of the pressure is removed from the selection of the *exact* 15" driver with the perfect voice in that sense; all of the popular ones will have enough highs, which will probably be smoothly rolled off anyway.
- As I'm never ("Never say never"? Wrong this time.), NEVER going into a Class D amp to try to mould it as I would a tube amp, I am resting comfortably with this new amp as a pure "black box".
-I have another all-tube amp, currently in pieces and needing a rebuild (to convert it from circuit boards and too-small components to old-fashioned construction that I can work with), which (according to my knowledge and according to how it sounded) should have much tighter speaker damping than an SVT, but it can go on a back burner now. No pressure to get it back together, as this new amp is performing this function. I took it apart to improve hum and noise (which I know I can do), but I'm kinda sick of that scene. Life is short, etc.

It's a lot off of my mind!

All of this is for the sake of my Embassy Pro (among others), which is a member in good standing of the THUNDERBIRD family. :)
Question: Are you talking "0" as in "0-10" or as in center/noon as most amps seem to be these days? I have the treble on my Rumbles set around 9[o'clock]*and the built in tweeter-on the 200c-off. I do engage the "bright" button in some boomier rooms for more "presence".
*with Bs @~10, Low mid @ ~2, Hi mid @ ~1-2[o'clock].
These are my 'default' settings, adjusted/tweaked according to the room.
 
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