Thunderbird Club

[DerekW]

I'm a little unclear on the concept: Pan pot and a vol pot? or combo pan and vol in one concentric? The latter would be a triple stack since a pan is its own two stack. Not sure that it exists but it's a very interesting approach! I'd definitely give one a try

He's saying one stacked pot with volume and blend. Is a pan different from a blend?

 

[Dadagoboi]

He's saying one stacked pot with volume and blend. Is a pan different from a blend?

Pan=Blend when you're talking pickups. It's a stacked pot with a common shaft running through both. The individual pots are left and right handed. As you're turning one off you're turning the other on. (One Knob)

A concentric pot is stacked but has two shafts (one for each pot) one inside the other. They're both right handed and independent from each other, You can use a concentric for V&T or V&V for a pair of pickups but not Pan (Blend) and Vol. (Two Knobs)

 

[DerekW]

Pan=Blend when you're talking pickups. It's a stacked pot with a common shaft running through both. The individual pots are left and right handed. As you're turning one off you're turning the other on. (One Knob)

A concentric pot is stacked but has two shafts (one for each pot) one inside the other. They're both right handed and independent from each other, You can use a concentric for V&T or V&V for a pair of pickups but not Pan (Blend) and Vol. (Two Knobs)

Oh, now I get it! Derp! Lol
Thanks! That makes sense now, a blend/pan is "left to right" where as V/T pots are "0-10", so to speak.

And apparently, never the twain shall met.

 

[Dadagoboi]

Oh, now I get it! Derp! Lol
Thanks! That makes sense now, a blend/pan is "left to right" where as V/T pots are "0-10", so to speak.

And apparently, never the twain shall met.

I'm open to be proved wrong!

 

[DerekW]

Jus did some reading and now I fully understand. A blend pot is essentially 2 volume pots on one shaft, so it's already double height. See you learn something every day.

I guess John east made one at one point, and MEC as well, it was available on certain warwicks , not sure if either do any more.

 

[hillerup]

Here's my 'stealth stack'. I had Thunderbucker trim and redrill/tap two very close in diameter knobs to fit a 500/250 CTS pot. V and T

Such a pretty bird...

 

[hillerup]

Jus did some reading and now I fully understand. A blend pot is essentially 2 volume pots on one shaft, so it's already double height. See you learn something every day.

I guess John east made one at one point, and MEC as well, it was available on certain warwicks , not sure if either do any more.

Don't they make those on certain Fender Jazz basses?

 

[Korladis]

I like this idea. I'm thinking volume in center, pan is the ring. With a pan, maybe tone is less necessary...

I always found tone knobs completely unnecessary. Took it out of my T-bird.

 

[Klondike]

These are the two stacked knobs I'm considering for my Fernandes Bird. I want to add individual volume on this one instead of having both pickups full-on all the time.

I really like the second set with the knurled sides. Thinking of putting black knurled knobs on my Ibanez Roadstar

 

[Gaolee]

Here's my 'stealth stack'. I had Thunderbucker trim and redrill/tap two very close in diameter knobs to fit a 500/250 CTS pot. V and T

I don't even like white guitars, bass guitars, drum kits, or cars, but that's a knock out!

 

[RedVee]

I always found tone knobs completely unnecessary. Took it out of my T-bird.

What do you set tone at if you take the control away?

I don't even like white guitars, bass guitars, drum kits, or cars, but that's a knock out!

I do like white... And, yeah, that is a knock out.

 

[Count Bassie]

Here's my 'stealth stack'. I had Thunderbucker trim and redrill/tap two very close in diameter knobs to fit a 500/250 CTS pot. V and T

Very neat. Looks a little like you could take a bite...

 

[Nocturnal]

On my basses that still have tone controls I run my tone control full on. From what I understand removing the tone pot is essentially the same as having it full on (but I could be wrong about that). I have a kill switch on a couple of basses in place of a tone control. I like that setup better.

 

[RedVee]

I have been thinking that the action is a bit high, so I had a bit of an adjust today. I think I've mucked it up.

The action still seems way high.

 

[ThaCoast]

View attachment 918219 View attachment 918218 View attachment 918217 I have been thinking that the action is a bit high, so I had a bit of an adjust today. I think I've mucked it up.

The action still seems way high.

If it's an epiphone, unbolt the neck & put a shim under. Also set a little bit of relief in the neck (backbow) as for the 3 point you'll want to have the front stud a bit higher than the back ones to give the strings a break angle.

 

[GBassNorth]

View attachment 918219 View attachment 918218 View attachment 918217 I have been thinking that the action is a bit high, so I had a bit of an adjust today. I think I've mucked it up.

The action still seems way high.

Yikes, that is way higher than I could live with. For reference here's about as low as I dare go on my Gibson TBird...

That's a dime being held in place by the E string at the 12th fret while the bass is in the playing position.

 

[RedVee]

Yikes, that is way higher than I could live with. For reference here's about as low as I dare go on my Gibson TBird...

That's a dime being held in place by the E string at the 12th fret while the bass is in the playing position.

Yeah, that looks more like it.
Even a little higher than that would be an improvement

 

[Count Bassie]

On my basses that still have tone controls I run my tone control full on. From what I understand removing the tone pot is essentially the same as having it full on (but I could be wrong about that). I have a kill switch on a couple of basses in place of a tone control. I like that setup better.

On a passive bass the tone pot is usually a treble roll-off, so you're probably right there. For the dub/reggae thing I do tend to roll that back a bit, but not much- maybe as much as a third of the pot's travel. I still want some attack on the front of the note I'm hitting, I just don't want the harmonics to come forward: just the fundamental, and I'm done- move on... so I'm thinking that between a pan pot and my amp I could get away with one less pot on the bass.

Concentric vol/pan, even with three pots in the guts- make em mini pots- and the kill switch. I've Always liked the kill switch thing. And I like saying "Kill Switch".

 

[Dadagoboi]

Very neat. Looks a little like you could take a bite...

It definitely bites back!

Concentric vol/pan, even with three pots in the guts- make em mini pots-.

As soon as you find one, let me know.

 

[Count Bassie]

On a passive bass the tone pot is usually a treble roll-off, so you're probably right there. For the dub/reggae thing I do tend to roll that back a bit, but not much- maybe as much as a third of the pot's travel. I still want some attack on the front of the note I'm hitting, I just don't want the harmonics to come forward: just the fundamental, and I'm done- move on... so I'm thinking that between a pan pot and my amp I could get away with one less pot on the bass.

Concentric vol/pan, even with three pots in the guts- make em mini pots- and the kill switch. I've Always liked the kill switch thing. And I like saying "Kill Switch".

It definitely bites back!


As soon as you find one, let me know.

For sure!