Thunderbird Club

[Chucky Stiletti]

While we're on the subject of Jaco, it occurred to me just now that his tone seems to have influenced bassists and, perhaps more importantly, producers that that is the sound they want. I've heard that(type of)tone used on songs that-to me, anyway-it didn't fit. I know I'm terminally weird, but I like a bass to sound like...[Fanfare]Here we go, folks!...A BASS. Just me, I s'pose, and my(notso)humble opinion.

here’s one of those songs imho...

 

[PillO]

I have been busy so I have had trouble keeping up; although I have managed to at least read up on posts each day.

So in response, and in no particular order:

AHEM! (you know who you are and why).

BUY IT!

I have placed an order with my local L&M for a green non-reverse. No expected delivery date yet.

 

[GonePlaid]

I have been busy so I have had trouble keeping up; although I have managed to at least read up on posts each day.

So in response, and in no particular order:

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AHEM! (you know who you are and why).

BUY IT!

I have placed an order with my local L&M for a green non-reverse. No expected delivery date yet.

Thank you for your support.

 

[GonePlaid]

here’s one of those songs imho...

Egg-zackly! I like the song but always wondered where the bass player was that day.

 

[MCF]

My Kasino was my 'big' amp purchase back in '70($381.50*). I bought an SVT/810 in'80. Don't remember the price, but I hadda have one 'cos that's what all the cool bass players had. Shoulda saved the $.
*still have the amp/sales slip. shoulda bought the extension(2nd 2x15"cab w/built-in 200W amp, controlled from main)
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If I recall, my Kasino head with 2x15 cab bought new in 74 was around 475? That was a ton of dough for a high sophomore. I can’t recall what they credited me for my anemic Bassman 50 and 2x12 Bassman cab with a blown speaker. Wish I could have kept that early 60’s head.

 

[GBassNorth]

here’s mine.....
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(In my best Spaceballs Col. Sanderz voice) No Sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again!

 

[MCF]

Unfortunately due to his bi-polar condition, Jaco tarnished and inevitably destroyed his enormous talent/gift. Having a huge ego didn't help also, but most 'stars' share that particular condition to become stars. Any electric bass-player should at the very least be aware of his contribution (as you have noted) to the instrument we play regardless of liking or loving his particular style or tone. And by the way, those were only two of the the things that set him apart - his sense of timing was legendary. In his prime (and this is important to underline) his sometimes busy playing was always musical and he never missed a beat or came in early/late out of weaving baselines through a composition. Of everything he was known for - this is what I think of when I think of Jaco.

This show is from the same year/tour I saw/heard him - young fresh Jaco with WR who at that point were at their prime. Textbook 'in-the-pocket' playing throughout.


NOTE: I've watched this vid before but just noticed Jaco is playing a fretted J [43:36] on Birdland - the song/LP that put WR on the map globally.

I appreciate the talent and like a some of his work with Joni. Early WR was interesting, but to me became tiring. He was an important bassist. But I don’t listen to him very much.

 

[GonePlaid]

Saw this elsewhere:

 

[GonePlaid]

If I recall, my Kasino head with 2x15 cab bought new in 74 was around 475? That was a ton of dough for a high sophomore. I can’t recall what they credited me for my anemic Bassman 50 and 2x12 Bassman cab with a blown speaker. Wish I could have kept that early 60’s head.

Yeah(sigh). I had 2 of these I stupidly sold.(that's 2 heads/2 cabs),etc.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Yeah(sigh). I had 2 of these I stupidly sold.(that's 2 heads/2 cabs),etc.
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Kasino U-200-2 1970's Black | Capital Guitars | Reverb

OUCH!!......

Fender bassman amplifier | eBay

 

[GonePlaid]

Kasino U-200-2 1970's Black | Capital Guitars | Reverb

YIKES......

Fender bassman amplifier | eBay

Well, the Kasino 802 has 8x10's; was marketed as a guitar amp. Mine(252) has 2x15s. That 802 prolly outweighs mine by 25-30 pounds. Mine's ~160 pounds. I'm guessing. I have no practical way to weigh it.
The "Bassman" is actually a "Band Master" although some folks used them for bass.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Well, the Kasino 802 has 8x10's; was marketed as a guitar amp. Mine(252) has 2x15s. That 802 prolly outweighs mine by 25-30 pounds. Mine's ~160 pounds. I'm guessing. I have no practical way to weigh it.
The "Bassman" is actually a "Band Master" although some folks used them for bass.

Whew!...relieved...

 

[GonePlaid]

Whew!...relieved...

if ya look at the other items on the "Bassman" ad, you'll see that a 63-like mine-is going for $3800+$300 shipping. Just a little more than I got for both of mine in 84.

 

[JIO]

I appreciate the talent and like a some of his work with Joni. Early WR was interesting, but to me became tiring. He was an important bassist. But I don’t listen to him very much.

Like many bands - I really liked WR's early work (1st 3 or 4 LP's) when they were new and fresh. I don't listen to those LP's much these days but they were and still are good/worth listening to. The list of bands I feel the same way about is much longer than bands I've continued to listen to/follow their development after many years. Even Bowie who I followed from beginning to end - I don't own every one of his recordings and not every recording was "great". I guess this can be said about most every artist/band. Miles is one who I could listen to any period today and like/appreciate his contribution to music.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

if ya look at the other items on the "Bassman" ad, you'll see that a 63-like mine-is going for $3800+$300 shipping. Just a little more than I got for both of mine in 84.

did you get more than the shipping?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Like many bands - I really liked WR's early work (1st 3 or 4 LP's) when they were new and fresh. I don't listen to those LP's much these days but they were and still are good/worth listening to. The list of bands I feel the same way about is much longer than bands I've continued to listen to/follow their development after many years. Even Bowie who I followed from beginning to end - I don't own every one of his recordings and not every recording was "great". I guess this can be said about most every artist/band. Miles is one who I could listen to any period today and like/appreciate his contribution to music.

Him and Coltrane..

 

[GonePlaid]

did you get more than the shipping?

Yes, but not by a helluva lot. If I'd've only known...,etc.

 

[GonePlaid]

Yes, but not by a helluva lot. If I'd've only known...,etc.

My 67NR through 1 head(~45 tube watts)into both 2x12 cabs was sa-weet.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

My 67NR through 1 head(~45 tube watts)into both 2x12 cabs was sa-weet.

I believe it..

 

[StephnG]

You would think that 8 10" drivers would move more air than that one big driver. The surface area is bigger, combined. There's just some magic in the combination of that big driver, the folded horn, and the way the amplifier works. I believe the output transformers and the capacitors ACC used to deal with transient spikes have something to do with it. But I'm not an electronics guy, so I don't know what I'm talking about, most likely.

Perhaps not although arguably more of an "informed statement" than most "drummers" would have on this topic
I think the key phrase here is "folded horn" ACC, EV & CV certainly shared the "Seismic Authority" in that realm