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Thunderbird Club

The CTS pots are in the Blackbird, I'll pick 'er up this week. The guy left a little more space between the two pots and the killswitch, in case I want to rotate the switch a bit, which I prolly will. Anahoo, here's the new pots... 500s, not 250s. Any thoughts on that note?
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I do note that the pots are a tad close together, there was a bit more room than he took advantage of. My bad for not being more specific! I tend to think that other people's ideas of design and function are, of course, going to be the same as mine... But maybe it's for the better, it'll be that much simpler, maybe, to operate them at the same time...

Brass pickguard, treated to turn black, with etched graphic and beveled edges next...
 
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The Epis should be twice the price really from Gibsons point of view of selling new basses. I just don't see how the new Epiphones were allowed to be as good as they are and the classics using Gibson pups as well as the 9 ply neck. The only downsides are the poly finish and the tuners which are a bit lumpy
What's wrong with the finish? The one on mine seems fine.
 
Nothing really wrong with it but polyurethane seems very thick and treakle like compared to nitro which feels very slick when hand fonished

I'm not crazy about how it ages in that it doesn't. So when you're a clutz like me, 20 years down the road you end up with a perfect finish with chips in it. At least if it was nitro, there would be aging to go along with it.
 
I'm not crazy about how it ages in that it doesn't. So when you're a clutz like me, 20 years down the road you end up with a perfect finish with chips in it. At least if it was nitro, there would be aging to go along with it.
Not thought of it like that but it isn't as hard wearing as poly. I just like the feel of it and how well it lends itself to hand finishing, that's probably the cabinet maker on me but it does seem easier to move your hand up and down the neck with a nitro finish. The epi seems to be very much straight off the gun with some mechanical flattening, the attention to details in the process are missing compared to a Gibson but seriously only a real snob would complain as it isn't half bad a job and at the price.... I like my epi a lot and I'm not complaining, if I really wanted a nitro finish I'd buy a Gibson or similar or even spend a few hours with some 3000 grit paper and some buffing compound to get perfection

There is something nice with aged lacquer though and how it looks with wear
 
Im not sure if I would like blue or red. I was imagining a shiny chrome/esk blue/red btw. Probably on the right build.
I think it would be cool to finish a TBird in a Rat Rod look - matte black body, some tastefully done dark red pin striping, and all the hardware and pick guard finished in brushed or satin nickel with a Ford Thunderbird logo (see below) cutout in the pickguard.

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I don't think I'm the only one who likes recent neck through Epis better than recent Gibsons. If they're going to charge three times as much, they need to be noticeably better.

You're not the only one... When I started getting GAS for a T-bird, someone on TB suggested I check out the Classic Pro. I had the money to lay down on a Gibson bird, but the Classic pro sounded/played so much better than the 2014 and 2015 Gibson birds I compared it to... it was a no-brainer. I don't understand it myself. These basses should sound pretty much identical, but the Gibsons just seemed dead and lifeless.
 
You're not the only one... When I started getting GAS for a T-bird, someone on TB suggested I check out the Classic Pro. I had the money to lay down on a Gibson bird, but the Classic pro sounded/played so much better than the 2014 and 2015 Gibson birds I compared it to... it was a no-brainer. I don't understand it myself. These basses should sound pretty much identical, but the Gibsons just seemed dead and lifeless.

Honestly, Gibson hasn't ever been consistently great with finish work - yes there really great ones but there are plenty that are so-so as well, doesn't matter what decade either.

I ended up playing the Jackson Sunday night, the show went fine and we played well, the venue did not have any A/C or fans so I sweated out quite a lot and suffered some pretty serious cramps in my left hand and both feet. I don't drink alcohol when we play (I'm at work, getting paid) only Gatorade, and at this show I drank two quarts to fend off the dehydration. Needless to say a rather disturbing turn of events.


Slugging it out at some point.

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Honestly, Gibson hasn't ever been consistently great with finish work - yes there really great ones but there are plenty that are so-so as well, doesn't matter what decade either.

I ended up playing the Jackson Sunday night, the show went fine and we played well, the venue did not have any A/C or fans so I sweated out quite a lot and suffered some pretty serious cramps in my left hand and both feet. I don't drink alcohol when we play (I'm at work, getting paid) only Gatorade, and at this show I drank two quarts to fend off the dehydration. Needless to say a rather disturbing turn of events.


Slugging it out at some point.

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Great pic!

Two pints is nothing if you went in to the gig less than well hydrated.
 
Honestly, Gibson hasn't ever been consistently great with finish work - yes there really great ones but there are plenty that are so-so as well, doesn't matter what decade either.

I ended up playing the Jackson Sunday night, the show went fine and we played well, the venue did not have any A/C or fans so I sweated out quite a lot and suffered some pretty serious cramps in my left hand and both feet. I don't drink alcohol when we play (I'm at work, getting paid) only Gatorade, and at this show I drank two quarts to fend off the dehydration. Needless to say a rather disturbing turn of events.


Slugging it out at some point.

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LOL - A half gallon of liquid before a gig! No wonder your knees are so close together in that pic, I'd have been running to the bathroom every half hour with that much liquid in me. :roflmao:

Great pic, love the smile, looks like you were having fun in spite of the cramping.
 
LOL - A half gallon of liquid before a gig! No wonder your knees are so close together in that pic, I'd have been running to the bathroom every half hour with that much liquid in me. :roflmao:

Great pic, love the smile, looks like you were having fun in spite of the cramping.


The crowd was super, very alt, lots of musicians, burlesque girls, sound company peeps etc, very fun group. I drank the half gallon over the course of two sets, not before the show! :roflmao:
 
Supposed to be around 90 degrees and equal humidity for our outdoor gig Sat. Yehaw! I'm leaning toward shorts...

Call them Hot Pants, sounds way sexier!
 
I'm not crazy about how it ages in that it doesn't. So when you're a clutz like me, 20 years down the road you end up with a perfect finish with chips in it. At least if it was nitro, there would be aging to go along with it.

Apologies up front for Fender content, but it is relevant to the discussion on poly finishes.
While I also like how nitro ages, actually, some Poly finishes do age and wear, just a bit differently to nitro. I think they also generally take longer. from my experience
I have a few very heavily used non Fender poly finished basses.- my Ibanez V (1975) and my Greco TB II (1977). The finishes on both look almost like the day they were applied with the exception of the usual, expected light use scratches and impact chips in the finish, as you say. I have had other MIJ poly finished guitars that showed yellowing to the clear coat.
The Poly on 70s Fenders often gets described as thick and virtually indestructible. Detractors will sometimes say, amongst their many issues with CBS Fenders, that the finish will withstand nuclear attack. (They also reckon it affects the tone, but I won't go there). However it will age and wear given enough time and use.
Here are some pics of my very heavily used 73 P Bass. She is a beauty and consequently has been used a lot. The black finish is factory and was a custom colour at that stage, as I understand it. I have a black 75 Jazz that is similar but not quite so advanced, probably not quite as much use. I have seen a number of other poly finished Fenders of similar age in a variety of colours showing this type of wear and in some cases more extreme than my P Bass. You also see a lot with little wear.
A couple of things can be seen from these pics.
The clear top coat will yellow- see the neck in the first pic.
The clear top coat is worn through in places of high abrasion while leaving the colour coat around the edge of the tummy cut- see second pic. Not saying you can't wear through the colour coat- just that it hasn't happened yet in this bass. I have seen others where it has.
The body finish will weather check, but a little differently to nitro. This one is finely checked all over the body. If you look at the first and second pics carefully you can see that the checking is through the clear top AND colour coats (see the wear on the edge of the tummy cut) but not through the clear sealant (visible in the first pic) , which remains unchecked.
The clear top and colour coats will flake off as single largish flakes in places, following the checking- see first pic. That is continuing without any active assistance from me. I have seen others where the checking is not as fine as this one.
The whole area where your right fore arm comes in contact with the bass when playing, while also checked like the rest of the bass body, has become quite porous. See the slightly duller area in the third pic. In high humidity or while playing (and sweating on it), it goes a pale whitish grey. I don't have a pic of this at present. It returns to black when it dries out.
Chips occur through impacts- see third pic- top edge of bass above the pickup.

Maybe I haven't sweated enough on the Greco TB II or the Ibanez V or the poly is different to what Fender used in the 70s.

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Call them Hot Pants, sounds way sexier!
Nobody wants to see me wearing shorts. The CroMagnon fur really needs to be tucked in.

But, when my wife and I were visiting our son, there was a wig shop right around the corner. I almost stopped in to see if they had one so I could go from being a bald guy to a long haired rock star in one easy step. But we ran out of time and I had already tested my wife's sense of humor enough for one trip.
 
I think it would be cool to finish a TBird in a Rat Rod look - matte black body, some tastefully done dark red pin striping, and all the hardware and pick guard finished in brushed or satin nickel with a Ford Thunderbird logo (see below) cutout in the pickguard.

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Yes! I love this look. I have a black p-bass with red and white hotrod pinstriping and it looks awesome. Would love to see that look on a T-bird. Build me one too while you're at it!