Thunderbird Club

[Bassmike62]

Well, maybe, but I assume you're somewhat pleased by last night's game.

Yup.
Very few (excluding moi) thought they'd go through the Leafs.
Jets grounded in 4 ? Heresy. But done .

 

[GonePlaid]

Yup.
Very few (excluding moi) thought they'd go through the Leafs.
Jets grounded in 4 ? Heresy. But done .

Yeah, there's a few people golfing sooner than expected.

 

[GBassNorth]

Thanks! I agree that is a good idea.

Now to have that conversation: "hey man, I really appreciate what you do but I have to admit you're doing it wrong and don't know as much as you think!" Or maybe even say "I was looking at the EQ and it looked really interesting. How did you arrive at this being ideal? On the screen is looks kind of unusual."

Lots of great advice here, but as I said, it's a tricky one that may be a combination of lots of things, some of which might be the soundmans competence or worship leader directive or congregation feedback.

I'd recommend telling your soundman that folks in the congregation are asking you if you're even plugged in because they can't hardly hear you. Then tell him you don't understand what the problem might be, let's go take a listen from mid room. Have your guitarist play for a few minutes on your bass and see if the soundman and you agree on what you're hearing mid room. If it sounds thin to you but he thinks it sounds great just ask him if he has any issues with bringing you a bit more forward in the mix. His response to that question will tell you everything you need to know.

I'd be careful about daisy chaining multiple instrument cables together, two 50' cables and a connector will have its own impact on your sound.

Again, tricky situation, but the best approach may be to confirm both you and the soundman are hearing the same thing and then trying to find a way you both agree on to improve it if necessary. Good luck.

 

[GonePlaid]

Lots of great advice here, but as I said, it's a tricky one that may be a combination of lots of things, some of which might be the soundmans competence or worship leader directive or congregation feedback.

I'd recommend telling your soundman that folks in the congregation are asking you if you're even plugged in because they can't hardly hear you. Then tell him you don't understand what the problem might be, let's go take a listen from mid room. Have your guitarist play for a few minutes on your bass and see if the soundman and you agree on what you're hearing mid room. If it sounds thin to you but he thinks it sounds great just ask him if he has any issues with bringing you a bit more forward in the mix. His response to that question will tell you everything you need to know.

I'd be careful about daisy chaining multiple instrument cables together, two 50' cables and a connector will have its own impact on your sound.

Again, tricky situation, but the best approach may be to confirm both you and the soundman are hearing the same thing and then trying to find a way you both agree on to improve it if necessary. Good luck.

I only suggest the daisy chaining to get an idea what ya sound like out front. One 25 footer is max for me.

 

[Bassmike62]

Yeah, there's a few people golfing sooner than expected.

Not yours

 

[dieselman]

OK Here it goes. Strap Button placement. I'm considering relocating the Strap button on the bottom of the bass to the back side. I had seen a Photo of the Placement here not long ago to the upper back a few inches in and down from the top. I can't get away from the Dreaded Dive and am hoping someone has a good idea. My Strap is 4" wide and Suede backing.
Epi Vintage Pro.

 

[GonePlaid]

Not yours

Yes. Hoping to repeat. Not betting the house-yet.
EDIT: or the 67 TBird.

 

[JJR58]

I'm with you on Morro Bay. That or any stretch of the California Central Coast from Morro to Cambria. It's so beautiful.

 

[JJR58]

I see i'm (if my eyes aren't deceiving me) 46 pages behind.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I see i'm (if my eyes aren't deceiving me) 46 pages behind.

other than PillO's posts, you haven't really missed anything….

 

[dagrev]

yeah, most are useless…my test is asking them about "Gain Structure"…I usually get the deer in the headlights look and I know….did a gig at a fancy shopping mall in Carmel just precovid where they brought in their very expensive sound company and the schmoe forgot to put the bass through the FOH because he decided to use a condenser mike on my rig but didn't know what the Phantom Power switch was for…..didn't even realize it till I said something….. i

Bless his heart.... Even I know what you're talking about.....

 

[KaraQ]

OK Here it goes. Strap Button placement. I'm considering relocating the Strap button on the bottom of the bass to the back side. I had seen a Photo of the Placement here not long ago to the upper back a few inches in and down from the top. I can't get away from the Dreaded Dive and am hoping someone has a good idea. My Strap is 4" wide and Suede backing.
Epi Vintage Pro.

I've moved several of mine, but not to the back, to the upper wing on the end. (same location as on the Gibson Blackbird)

The only 'bird I've really had neck dive issues with is my Pro 5, and it helped tremendously. (but that wasn't my primary reason for moving it)

 

[dieselman]

Looks to be about 4 to 5 " up from the existing button?

 

[dagrev]

Lots of great advice here, but as I said, it's a tricky one that may be a combination of lots of things, some of which might be the soundmans competence or worship leader directive or congregation feedback.

I'd recommend telling your soundman that folks in the congregation are asking you if you're even plugged in because they can't hardly hear you. Then tell him you don't understand what the problem might be, let's go take a listen from mid room. Have your guitarist play for a few minutes on your bass and see if the soundman and you agree on what you're hearing mid room. If it sounds thin to you but he thinks it sounds great just ask him if he has any issues with bringing you a bit more forward in the mix. His response to that question will tell you everything you need to know.

I'd be careful about daisy chaining multiple instrument cables together, two 50' cables and a connector will have its own impact on your sound.

Again, tricky situation, but the best approach may be to confirm both you and the soundman are hearing the same thing and then trying to find a way you both agree on to improve it if necessary. Good luck.

As always, more great insight here. This place is worth the price of admission! I'll discretely ask a few people with some understanding of what to listen for. Our ex-soundman maybe can tell what he's hearing, but he lost hearing in one ear a year ago so I'm not sure how well he hears depth and so forth. He was a drummer and liked the bass to not have to be listened for to hear it.

 

[GBassNorth]

yeah, most are useless…my test is asking them about "Gain Structure"…I usually get the deer in the headlights look and I know….did a gig at a fancy shopping mall in Carmel just precovid where they brought in their very expensive sound company and the schmoe forgot to put the bass through the FOH because he decided to use a condenser mike on my rig but didn't know what the Phantom Power switch was for…..didn't even realize it till I said something….. i

I know all about Gain Structure.
It's mostly a small white granule of surfactant mixed with a smaller number of blue or green granules of enzymes and is pretty effective at removing stains in the wash. Of course there's the more contemporary POD version which is two dissimilar liquids separated from a powder by a water soluble membrane. Either one is similar to Tide or Cheer and all three are made by the same company.

 

[GonePlaid]

I know all about Gain Structure.
It's mostly a small white granule of surfactant mixed with a smaller number of blue or green granules of enzymes and is pretty effective at removing stains in the wash. Of course there's the more contemporary POD version which is two dissimilar liquids separated from a powder by a water soluble membrane. Either one is similar to Tide or Cheer and all three are made by the same company.

 

[dagrev]

OK Here it goes. Strap Button placement. I'm considering relocating the Strap button on the bottom of the bass to the back side. I had seen a Photo of the Placement here not long ago to the upper back a few inches in and down from the top. I can't get away from the Dreaded Dive and am hoping someone has a good idea. My Strap is 4" wide and Suede backing.
Epi Vintage Pro.

Wow, I'm using a similar strap and don't experience dive on either VP. Sorry to hear that. Moving the bottom strap button up does help. It makes the bass feel odd to me, or at least on my used 76 which came that way.

 

[GonePlaid]

Wow, I'm using a similar strap and don't experience dive on either VP. Sorry to hear that. Moving the bottom strap button up does help. It makes the bass feel odd to me, or at least on my used 76 which came that way.

I've had the 67 since 73. Any change in button positions would feel odd at this stage o' the game.

 

[dagrev]

I know all about Gain Structure.
It's mostly a small white granule of surfactant mixed with a smaller number of blue or green granules of enzymes and is pretty effective at removing stains in the wash. Of course there's the more contemporary POD version which is two dissimilar liquids separated from a powder by a water soluble membrane. Either one is similar to Tide or Cheer and all three are made by the same company.

I thought you really knew. You completely missed the important aspect of how said Gain Structures taste.

 

[GonePlaid]

Hadda go to Walmart today: