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tipflation, tip creep, and tip fatigue
- Thread starter hbarcat
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The full tip goes to the employee. If one works an hour and gets tipped $4.95, they get $7.25. The restaurant does not get to pocket it. However, if that employee gets tipped less than $4.95, then the restaurant needs to kick in to get it up to $7.25 for the hour. The entire tip, and sometimes more, goes to the employee.
Indeed. What I was asking, (admittedly rhetorically), is why they would put up with a variable rate based on whether the customer was having a good or bad day.
The math is the same. Follow the money. The employee gets $7.25/h no matter what, but they pocket any tips above $4.95/h. I think we're talking about the same thing, just describing it in different terms.
I find myself avoiding establishments that do this. One of my favorite restaurants had sarted doing this. I ate there weekly for 15 years, but now it’s maybe 4 times a year. Just pay your employees, treat them fairly and maybe you won’t have the turn over.
No I don’t want to argue. I thought I just providing information. I believe the standard tip went from 10% to 15% in the 1970s (not 1960s), and later from 15% to 20%.
People also use anchoring when evaluating prices, so your impression may be different than mine based on your earliest experiences.
I’m not saying what the correct or reasonable tip rate is to ensure a fair wage, I don’t know.
Apologies for any misunderstanding. I respect your opinions.
Took my daughter out for dinner for her birthday. The total bill for the four of us was over $300.00. The server came to our table maybe five times throughout the meal. The POS system suggested a tip of 18 to 25%... That's in the neighbourhood of $60.00 for a tip?
We did tip her and to my mind, she was well taken care of!
Fishheadjoe
We did tip her and to my mind, she was well taken care of!
Fishheadjoe
IMHO $60 is the appropriate tip on a $300 bill unless the service was bad. 
The other issue with optional tipping is that everyone has a different concept of what appropriate service is. Some people prefer servers to come by every 5 mins. Some prefer nothing once the food is dropped. The server is at the mercy of everyone’s personal preferences, which are wide ranging and sometimes unreasonable.
I prefer that things I pay for have a clearly defined price. I also prefer that people especially at the lower end of the wage scale have a living wage. If, somehow, tipping were to magically disappear from the American landscape and the same amount of money were to be added to the prices of services and the wages of those delivering said service, I would be the first to cheer wildly.
I have spent a fair amount of time in Japan, where tipping for service is simply unheard of. It is my impression that the income insecurity of low-paid people there is far less severe than in the US.
I have spent a fair amount of time in Japan, where tipping for service is simply unheard of. It is my impression that the income insecurity of low-paid people there is far less severe than in the US.
Usually the tip is automatically added to the bill for groups of 20 people.IMHO $60 is the appropriate tip on a $300 bill unless the service was bad.
Usually the tip is automatically added to the bill for groups of 20 people.
True enough, but the $300 tab in question was for a party of four. Must have been a nice restaurant.
They won't let me into those places unless I'm playing music.True enough, but the $300 tab in question was for a party of four. Must have been a nice restaurant.
I've started carrying cash again to avoid the dreaded tip screen on counter service and takeout. I'll throw some loose change in the jar sometimes but I'm not giving a real tip unless it's a sit down full service restaurant.
Places that expect you to tip where it's counter service and you bus your own table have lost their mind.
Places that expect you to tip where it's counter service and you bus your own table have lost their mind.
Write a song about it.
Tip tip, everywhere a tip
Rounding all my dollar 'mounts
Takin' my dimes
Tap this, no tap that
Tap'n le-eave a tii-ip
Tip tip, everywhere a tip
Rounding all my dollar 'mounts
Takin' my dimes
Tap this, no tap that
Tap'n le-eave a tii-ip
The preselected tip percentages are what drive me nuts because a coffee or takeout pizza place will start at 20% and go up as high (from what I’ve personally seen) to 40%. It’d bother me less if they started at 15% and also provided a “no tip” option, but to start at 20% when no real service is provided is annoying at best. And as others have mentioned, the fact that this is done prior to being handed your drink or food inspires unnecessary tipping to avoid potential “issues.”
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
No, you couldn’t. That’s only $15 a head. Very far from fancy.
My wife and I routinely spend $100 on a dinner for just the 2 of us, and I’m not talking about super fancy places. But if we each get a cocktail, share a starter, and each get a dinner, there’s $100.
If it’s a birthday or special occasion, we’re ok with going above that. However, we love food and unique culinary experiences. We don’t have kids, and eating well is one of our indulgences.
