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To those who have downsized their rig

I just saw a show featuring two loud rock bands touring together in a packed 1,200 person club, and the bass players were sharing a rig that appeared to consist of a small class D head and a single Ampeg 1x15 cab. Now, this particular club has a massive sound system with two fanned towers of speakers hanging from the ceiling, but I imagine these two bass players have settled on using this bare-bones rig for their tour, so ...
 
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I'm going counter to where most posters are at in this thread.....

I tried.....I really tried to downsize to smaller cabinets, but found the old saying, "There's NO replacement for displacement" to be 100% true.

I'm back to using my Bergantino NV610 and end every gig with a smile because of the stage filling, huge tone that only comes from multi drivers moving air.

Guess I'm one of the old schooler's, I won't trade transport convenience for sound/tone.

...you will when you get to be my age...
 
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I'm 68, and glad technology has gotten to a point where things have gotten smaller, lighter, and produce more output and wider frequency response; in dependable things.
In my younger days I used to schlep this stuff.
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Three 18"s........ man could I move some air. But that was in the 70s. Now I'm into three 12"s.
 
iGood spot! When I run all 4 I run them in 4ohm mode. I then connect each pair in parallel giving me a 2ohm load for a pair. I then have a custom little "serialiser" box that a tech knocked up for me that allows me to connect the loads (pairs) in serial so the whole rig runs at 4ohms.
Huh - are these commercially available? Not from this tech but otherwise.
I have 2 Eden 4-ohm cabs I'd like to pair on occasion into one of my Eden Class D or Tube amps.
 
Huh - are these commercially available? Not from this tech but otherwise.
I have 2 Eden 4-ohm cabs I'd like to pair on occasion into one of my Eden Class D or Tube amps.

A bloke in the uk used to make them semi-commercially. You can try him: rockwire.co.uk. He is winding down his business though, so he may not have the components. I would imagine any competent electrical component tech type person could knock one up. It’s literally a plastic box with one neutral connector on one side and two on the other!
 
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rock club type shows and rock concert type shows are two different animals which require two different backline approaches, first of all mi have no problems with newer smaller tuned cabs in fact i am insanely jealous because i want one of each .... however, that being said depending upon venue, ceiling height,width of stage as well as depth, if you bring the wrong bass rig to say anything outdoors with stage 40 to 60 feet wide or more ... sure if you are lucky enough that sound company brought monolithic wedges for you then you may be able to hear yourself well enough to sound as if you and your drummer have played together more than once, but if you have inadequate little hi tech club rig and all that real estate between you , your rig and your drummer then the sweet spot you will probably find is that one 90 % of bass players find themselves migrating towards , that "X" way back near drum riser and bass rig. Because of situations such as windy days out on big stages and being able to hear the wind carry your tone off into the clouds ... you better not dump all your old school ampeg stuff cause one day there may come a time when you have to actually play bigger than club gigs, and outdoor gigs , forget about it you must have the monolithic SVT stuff AND its best t have equal sized pile on each side of drum riser , unless of course you don't intend to go out to front of stage and experience the wonderful sea of humanity that awaits entertaining. Sure you may able to pull it off , migrate around the stage a lil bit BUT if you can feel that rig pumpin with kick drum through the stage and your feet guess what , you will play with authority and be in a pocket with your drummer that the crowd as well as you will not soon forget . please don't misunderstand me as the arguing for SVT guy either way doesnt matter to me sure i hate lugging stuff to club gigs but not bad enuff to compromise my instrument or my integrity as bass man
 
i downsized and now play out more frequently, go to more jams, take better advantage of last minute opportunities. put an equipment package together that suits what you do. you'll never go back.
That's a great point.

If it's easy to get out the door you can accept many different types of gigs than if you're moving a big rig all the time!
 

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