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Tone Hammer DI appreciation thread

I love mine and use it at church as well. I love the AGS and always have it on, kinda simulates a cab sim with the rounded lows and trimmed highs. Why is on not an option? If you set the Gain to fully CCW there's no grit, just the attenuation i mentioned above. Great for fingerstyle.
You hit the key point here IMO. You can't treat the AGS as something to engage while playing and expect a subtle, musical result. The AGS switch revoices the TH and you need to select whether you want it on or off before you start. I suppose it could work for some folks as an "on the fly" kind of deal in limited situations. However, IME it's unlikely that many people will be happy when using it that way.
 
I love mine and use it at church as well. I love the AGS and always have it on, kinda simulates a cab sim with the rounded lows and trimmed highs. Why is on not an option? If you set the Gain to fully CCW there's no grit, just the attenuation i mentioned above. Great for fingerstyle.
Mine is always on as well - gain most of the way CCW depending on if I want any grit in, or just a subtle 'vintage' voicing. I love the high & low pass attenuation, it gives sound techs a nicely slotted signal that (I've been told) they don't have to do much to make fit into a mix.

There's been lots of discussion on how AGS is implemented, personally I think that it would be better to just have a small toggle switch instead, as the footswitch misleads people into thinking that it could be changed on the fly.
 
Mine is always on as well - gain most of the way CCW depending on if I want any grit in, or just a subtle 'vintage' voicing. I love the high & low pass attenuation, it gives sound techs a nicely slotted signal that (I've been told) they don't have to do much to make fit into a mix.

There's been lots of discussion on how AGS is implemented, personally I think that it would be better to just have a small toggle switch instead, as the footswitch misleads people into thinking that it could be changed on the fly.

I have the same thought. On listening back to our rehearsals or youtube services the AGS, even when I set mine to about 9-10:00 with mild wool as I dig in it sits real nice in the mix. Of course our sound techs have a lot to do with working their magic overall but I have never had a complaint from them besides my signal being hot.
 
I love mine and use it at church as well. I love the AGS and always have it on, kinda simulates a cab sim with the rounded lows and trimmed highs. Why is on not an option? If you set the Gain to fully CCW there's no grit, just the attenuation i mentioned above. Great for fingerstyle.

I use the TH mainly for the EQ. My dingwall bass can be a bit too abrasive/gritty for songs that call for cleaner tone. So, AGS on all the time wouldn't make sense in my mind. I have a barbershop for light hair and its on most of the time. I also have a Damnation MBD-1 for more full on distortion. It is used sparingly and only engaged during intense parts of songs.
My sound engineer does not like the hot DI on the Tone Hammer. I've heard others on TB say the same thing. Besides, we have a REDDI on stage. So, I am not sure Im really getting the benefit out of the Tone Hammer as I intended. Im considering selling it and getting a Cab sim of some sort in the future.
 
My sound engineer does not like the hot DI on the Tone Hammer. I've heard others on TB say the same thing.
I've heard the hot DI comment many times and have actually been asked on occasion if I could dial it back. IME though, it's better to have a hotter output that can be attenuated/padded down at the mixing desk, than a weak output with a poor signal to noise ratio.
 
So, those of you who use the AGS, do you use it because you don't have any good dirt on your pedalboard or because the AGS does something magical that a nice overdrive/dirt cannot achieve?
For me at low gain settings it acts a bit like a combined HPF/LPF and offers a more vintage amp mid-centered tone. While it does also boost gain when turned on, for me it stays clean until I actually start to dial up the gain control.
 
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Wow! You all are right. AGS Sounds great with the gain down low. Move the gain even an hour or so and it gets dirty really quick. Here are my knobs with my P bass on full volume. May need to make adjustments for other basses.
 
Mine is always on as well - gain most of the way CCW depending on if I want any grit in, or just a subtle 'vintage' voicing. I love the high & low pass attenuation, it gives sound techs a nicely slotted signal that (I've been told) they don't have to do much to make fit into a mix.

There's been lots of discussion on how AGS is implemented, personally I think that it would be better to just have a small toggle switch instead, as the footswitch misleads people into thinking that it could be changed on the fly.
Agreed!

The TH DI is great, but if they moved the AGS to a toggle and added a parallel, clean out, it would be perfect.
 
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Someone may have already posted the link to what I call "Eublet's TH Rosetta Stone post" back in March 2011, but I figured I would just add it in as cut and paste below. Once you "get it" the TH is very versatile and a lot less frustrating. FWIW, Eublet's observation in a later post was IIRC that the AGS on setting is roughly the same as the Drive control on the TH head being at 3 o'clock - given that, it's obvious why AGS on/AGS off is such a dramatic change with Gain up on the TH DI.

From Eublet's March 2011 post:

The Tone Hammer to me is quite simply an outstanding piece of gear. I've used it often, as well as the BDDI, in a variety of settings, both as a preamp/DI, as a recording unit, and as a preamp for a poweramp. I can answer a lot of questions about this if you ask. I'll give some highlights on each though.

The Blend on the Para does work, but in the end, I never cared for how it worked in the end. The wet signal you blend is has a default scooped tone, which you can try to alter with the mid control, but in the end it seems to be blending the mid-boosted natural tone of your bass with the scooped tube emulated tone. Not to my liking at all. This issue isn't as dramatic sounding with the BDDI because there is no mid boost, so it feels more natural. The tube emulation on the Sansamp is VERY fat, and hard to get away from also. Running lower blend settings help control that, but again the catch is that you wind up hearing a lot of your basses tone mixed in with a completely different tone. Doesn't always wind up getting you were you want to be.

The Tone Hammer is a totally different animal. With the AGS off, it's just an uber clean EQ with gain boost. Very high quality, and the sweepable mids are fantastic. You know how everyone raves about the Sadowsky outboard preamp/DI pedal. I had one, until I got my Tone Hammer. The TH covered the Sadowsky thing VERY well. The low control has the same 40 hz setting with the AGS off, as does the 4k treble setting. The sweepable mids on the TH are just wonderful, though I do wish it would go up to about 2k. No big deal.

The EQ on the TH is flat when it is engaged. When you also turn on the AGS, at the lowest setting, there is no hair on the notes at all. Again, NO hair at all unless your bass is just SUPER hot in terms of output. What does happen when you engage the AGS is that highs are immediately rolled off in a way that simulates a vintage tweeterless cabinet. So the tone gets warmer sounding off the bat, even though the lows and mids are still the same. The Treble control now acts more like a Presence knob does on the Sansamp stuff. It dials in grindy mids in the 2.5k region. Very slick. The lows are tightened up a bit as you boost them, so instead of getting really deep and boomy, they get fat and vintage. Again, still no hair on the notes because the AGS gain is fully counter clockwise. The mid control still allows you to cut/boost mids where you want them. Very slick. Vintage tones with no hair.

As you add more AGS gain, the tone gets warmer until you get some hair, and then it starts overdriving. With the EQ flat, the overdrive tone is VERY mid-oriented such that it can sound a bit nasally and harsh. But remember, this is with the EQ flat, and most folks who are used to hearing a classic tube amp (think SVT for example) should note that an SVT is no where near flat. There's a mid scoop. So to get rid of that nasally midrange in the TH, you have to cut mids as you boost the gain. Setting the knob around 2-3 o'clock puts the mid control around the 750 hz mark, where you'll get some classic SVT'ish mid scoop going. Start cutting the mids there to get the tone you want. Cut to anywhere from 10 to 8 o'clock, and you can pretty much close your eyes and thing your running through the BDDI and not the Tone Hammer. The cool thing is that you aren't having to use a Blend knob at all to control that mid scoop. Just scoop the mids as deep as you like to get the tone you're after, and then adjust the Treble (which now more like a Presence, remember?) to get the amount of cut you want. Then, dial up the bass if you want it fat and deep, or cut it back to keep a thinner tone. Very slick, and way cool.

Here's another trick about the TH that I use a good bit. I'll scoop the mids ALL the way out around 750 hz for a rock tone. With the Bass/Treble boosted to around 2 o'clock, this is very similar to the "Fat Tube" setting from the BDDI manual. But the cool trick is instead to cut treble and bass back. I'll set bass to 11 or maybe 10 o'clock, and cut treble all the way back to 8 or 9 o'clock. The result is a very warm, lower-mid dominant tone (because the upper mids and lows are cut back so far), with a subtle, understated top end. It's very B15'ish and sounds awesome with a P bass or jazz with flats. At this point, if you want more depth, rather than boosting the bass, you move the mid frequency knob clockwise, which pools out upper mids and articulation. If you want more of that, then you move the knob counter clockwise to bring those upper mids back into the tone. The highs and lows stay the same, so it's an easy way to adjust your tone on the gig to get more/less articulation in the mix.

These are just a few examples of what the Tone Hammer can do. I'm a huge fan of it obviously, but I came from being a BDDI user for quite a while, and I just never could bond with the new VT pedal. I still love and have a deep respect for the BDDI, and while I don't use one myself much anymore, I know I can always make it work. The Para Driver I wouldn't bother with myself.

A lot of folks around here have slammed the Tone Hammer because you can't use the AGS like a second channel, where you can engage/disengage overdrive at will without causing volume differences. I guess I can understand that, but really that's not the Aguilar's design intent. Instead, think of it more as a single channel tone shaper, that will "hammer" (pardon the pun) your tone into a wide variety of directions. It just takes a little time playing with the controls to figure out what does what. I still learn new things about it all the time. It's not that it's complicated, but rather that the AGS circuit ties in very closely to the mid control, so changing the mids affects the overdrive tone, and the more gain you add, the more the low end tightens up to prevent things from getting muddy.
 
I've heard the hot DI comment many times and have actually been asked on occasion if I could dial it back. IME though, it's better to have a hotter output that can be attenuated/padded down at the mixing desk, than a weak output with a poor signal to noise ratio.
I agree, as long as they don't turn your signal down too low and you disappear in the mix...lol. Non-experienced non-musician sound people sometimes need to be taught ..if that's the case:D
 
I bought a THDI for the second time to work purely as a drive pedal which it excels at it, but I just discovered I can run it last in chain switched off as a standard DI and then switch it on (post-eq ofc) and have it switch to the eq'd drive sound by engaging the pedal! I don't know why but I expected the DI to not pass signal when the pedal was bypassed so this just opened up several possibilities to me!
 
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Ended up, putting it back on the board. This time in the fx loop of the hx stomp. So i can have some effects after the TH, such as eq, cab sims or IR.
And i use a boost before the TH to push it into distortion, but at the same time lowering the output of the fx loop. Making it even in level.
The joy of combining analog with digital!
 

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