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Tony Franklin jazz pickup - does it hum?

I've been longing for a really great P/J bass for a while now, so today I finally bit the bullet and ordered a Tony Franklin fretted P in Olympic White.

Can anyone tell me if the bridge position jazz pickup on that bass is hum canceling or a true single coil (as in noisy?)

I thought it was basically a DiMarzio Model J, but Fender says no, it's a "Tony Franklin Signature Jazz pickup"...whatever that means!

I won't have the bass for a week, so in the meantime I'm biting my nails and doing a lot of research :)
 
My fretted Tony Franklin just came in this past Saturday (also in olympic white). It's a fantastic bass. Like the others have said...with the bridge p/up soloed there is a very slight hum but not a problem at all. I can't wait to get this bass in a live setting, I think it will really be great in the mix.
 
OP: You will not regret ordering that bass!

Man I hope not...this sucker is expensive! I've been on a Fender Mexi trip lately, bought an '09 Precision and an '09 Jazz. Both are sweeeeeeeeet and I dig them deeply, but the pair of them cost me $500 less than this TFP.

My buddy tells me the TFP's are basically Custom Shop instruments that cost just a little more than American Standards. I'm not sure I follow his logic completely on that, but I did get a chance to play one a while ago and was extremely impressed with the build quality, finish, and tone.

I'll know next Tuesday if she's the one.
 
For anyone following this thread, I had called Fender to get more info about the pickups in this bass (specifically the bridge single coil) as it's not easy to come by...I'm finding this bass is a very rare bird.

The Fender rep actually emailed Tony Franklin and below are the responses from Fender and Tony...pretty cool :)



FENDER CONSUMER RELATIONS

"Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this. It is NOT a Dimarzio, rather a Fender developed pickup that has some features you'd find on a Dimarzio (like the hex head pole pieces). Since I couldn’t find any more info about it, I had to go straight to Tony himself. Here is what he said":


TONY FRANKLIN

"The original was a DiMarzio, and I wanted something similar to that sound but with a bit more low end and overall punch. Michael Frank Braun helped create the pick up that is in there now. I may experiment with the new noiseless pick ups in time, but for right now, it's a good old "noisy with tons of character and mojo" TF Special!! :o)

Hope that helps.

Best

Tony"
 
Wish they'd offer a few more color choices - like 3TSB - that would look sweet w/ the maple neck and black p'guard. They have that color for the fretless, but not the fretted - oh well . . .

Yeah, I wanted the fretted version in black but it's only available in fretless.

I was able to play my Tony Franklin fretted last night in a full band setting for the first time and it sounded great.
 
Yeah, I wanted the fretted version in black but it's only available in fretless.

I was able to play my Tony Franklin fretted last night in a full band setting for the first time and it sounded great.

Can you give me more info about which pickup(s) you used and the tones from them?

One of the things I've heard about this bass is that the Jazz pup is very hot and loud so there isn't a huge drop in volume when switching from the P pickup to the J. That's something that would make this bass unique among all the other Fenders with PJ setups, like the Aerodyne and Reggie Hamilton.

It would also make this the ideal bass for me, as I've been alternating between Precision and Jazz basses for years. My favorite thing about a Jazz is the bridge pickup sound, but overall I prefer the Precision...this way I get both.

Thanks.
 
Can you give me more info about which pickup(s) you used and the tones from them?

One of the things I've heard about this bass is that the Jazz pup is very hot and loud so there isn't a huge drop in volume when switching from the P pickup to the J. That's something that would make this bass unique among all the other Fenders with PJ setups, like the Aerodyne and Reggie Hamilton.

It would also make this the ideal bass for me, as I've been alternating between Precision and Jazz basses for years. My favorite thing about a Jazz is the bridge pickup sound, but overall I prefer the Precision...this way I get both.

Thanks.

The reason I went for the Tony Franklin bass was I have also been playing jazz basses for years but prefer a P bass in the mix. When I would bring my P bass to gigs there were always a few songs that I really missed the bridge pickup of a jazz bass, so I was bringing a P and a jazz and it was always a pain to switch basses during a set.

The TF P bass will not sound like a jazz bass when both p/ups are selected...but you probably already know that. It sounds more like a P bass with a lot more definition as well as smoothing out the lows and highs a little from the overall P bass sound.

In our band practice the other night I mainly used the P p/up and for a couple of songs I used the P and J. With the adjustable pole pieces on the bridge pickup you can perfectly match the output of the P p/up vs. the P and J mixed, so you wont get a noticeable rise/drop in volume when you switch.

I had been playing my bass for the first several days with the stock setup since it was pretty close to perfect right out of the box (so I thought). As soon as I got this bass in the mix at full volume I noticed that there were some weak spots that needed some pickup adjustments. Last night I made some adjustments to the pickups to get the string output as even as possible across the spectrum, and it made a HUGE difference even at lower volumes. It also made a big difference on the bridge pickup, where I once thought I would never use the bridge pickup soloed.

As far as the overall tone of this bass...it's hard to describe. With the P and J pickups selected the bass has it's very own sound. IMO you get the best of the P and the best of the J, there are lots of low mids and full detailed upper mids and highs. I still prefer a Jazz bass when slapping, but our band doesn't play a single song where I slap so it's no big deal for me. With the P pickup soloed it sounds just like a P bass. I would say the TF P bass is designed to be more of a rock bass instead of that old school P sound. It has a pretty aggressive sound to it overall, with LOTS of punch and lots of sustain.

Hope that helps some
 
VERY helpful...thank you!

I know I can get the P tone I love from the front pickup, so if I can also cop a stacato "Jaco-esque" finger funk vibe from the bridge pickup that is likely going to be the most useful bass possible for me.

Can't wait to get my hands on it!
 
My buddy tells me the TFP's are basically Custom Shop instruments that cost just a little more than American Standards. I'm not sure I follow his logic completely on that, but I did get a chance to play one a while ago and was extremely impressed with the build quality, finish, and tone.

I played one early this year, and was also blown away by the build quality, feel, and sound. It's probably the most "boutique" feeling Fender I've played, and I've tried a few Custom Shop instruments and many other high end Fenders. If I didn't already have a great P/J in the form of a G&L SB-2, I'd probably get one -- in fact I've considered selling my beloved 2004 P and replacing it with the TF. After learning the cool pickup info in this thread, I'm even more impressed!
 
I wonder if it is a side by side humbucker like the Dimarzio Model J that it was modeled after. I know it is listed as a single coil on the Fender website, but so is the split P pickup, and we know that's not a single coil.
 
Bass arrived yesterday, as luck would have it I got a call to sub with a blues band the same night, so I hauled the TFP along with my regular Precision. Here's a mini review for those interested:

Let me just say right up front this is easily the best Fender I have ever played, and I have played a bunch. It's brand new and not relic'd or anything, but it looks and feels old. The neck is deeply tinted and has a glossy but smooth nitro finish. Frets are perfect and mine arrived with the straightest neck I have ever seen, I mean DEAD straight.

The bass had been set up and was very good right out of the box, but I like my action high enough that I don't get any fret rattle at all, so I raised all the saddles a bit. Intonation was spot-on, didn't have to touch that at all. It played just great with the straight fretboard, no trussrod adjustment required.

Mine weighs 8.5 pounds exactly so it's very light and comfortable to wear. Any less would actually be a problem because the neck is substantial and would dive with a lighter body. Playing unplugged it was very lively and resonant. Even though it's light, it feels rock solid.

All the hardware is first rate and 70's vintage, saddles have slotted screws instead of hex heads. It also comes in a an old school tolex hardshell case that weighs about twice as much as the bass...might have to swap that for an SKB!

Barely 2 hours after the bass arrived I was at the club setting up for my gig. I set up my amp to get a good P sound out of the front pickup, and then dialed in a different EQ on my Boss GEB-7 pedal for the Jazz pickup. I like a real honky Jaco finger funk tone from the rear pup.

Everything sounded great, but the real test of course is hearing it in the mix. We started off with some jazzy blues tunes and I used the P pup for a vintage sort of tone. This pickup sounds HUGE. It is deep and clear with lots of bottom and a pronounced throaty growl when you dial in some treble. I've played a number of old all original Fenders...a '57, '64, '66 and lots of 70's models...this P has the same sort of tonal vibe I noticed on those, and specifically what I mean is that it's very thick and full on the E and A strings, and somewhat less but more defined on the D and G strings. I raised the lower half of the pickup as high as it would go and angled the upper half down at an angle and that evened things out nicely.

Then we did a Tower of Power tune where I get to motor around the fretboard doing the 16th note boogie, so I switched to the Jazz pickup and hit my EQ pedal. Holy mother of pearl Batman!!! That thing is NASTY! The tone just leaped out of the mix, I could clearly hear every note with bell-like clarity, including ghost notes. It was exactly what I've always wanted from a Jazz bass but never quite got to.

I also tried using both pickups, but that didn't quite make it for me. It rolled off the deep muscular bass from the P and gave a sort of glassy edge to the J, but just didn't have the mojo that either pup had by itself. It's certainly a very usable tone and I'm certain when I work with my amp a bit I'll find the right settings to make it sing.

Bottom line - Every guy in the band and all the musicians in the house came up and commented on my bass tone, it was certainly the best sound I've ever gotten on stage. This bass is expensive, but I'm keeping her and I can already see it's going to be my main gigging instrument. No more hauling around a P and a J or debating on which one to take...I've got the absolute best of both in one guitar.

Yeah baby! :hyper:
 
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Great review. I especially agree with the "substantial" neck observation. That's something I noticed right away. This neck definitely has some weight to it (in a good way) which helps with the clarity and sustain...IMO. Mine is also extremely straight and has perfect fretwork.

One thing that caught my attention in your review was the vintage neck tint. I'm not sure mine has that?? The neck looks really "white" to me, and is not as dark as the neck on my 08 MIA Fender P bass. Maybe some have it and some don't.

All in all it's an amazing bass, I'm loving mine.
 
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