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Tried Some New Basses Today

#81
KingRazor said:
I wondered when I'd attract the EBMM fanboys.

I don't need to rationalize my purchase of an SX. That bass sounds fantastic. All the P tone I could ever want, without the hefty price tag of a MIA Fender.

I can tell a difference between my SX and the EBMMs I've tried. Pretty easily. The neck on my SX is more comfortable to play on, simple as that.

I never once said "All SX basses are better than all EBMM basses." And I never would.

But, MY SX is better than ANY EBMM bass that I have played (except that fretless fiver I mentioned in the OP).

And I have absolutely found plenty of basses that are more expensive than my SX and play better. Plenty.

But, I don't have to defend myself against fanboys.

If you love EBMM, that's great. I couldn't care less. I have played a number of EBMM basses that I wouldn't pay $100 for. To each their own, yada yada.
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Not necessarily an EBMM "fanboy," but I know good basses when I play them. And, what you need to defend yourself about is uninformed statements made by someone who clearly wants to bash everything he does not have...:rollno:
 
#82
mdogs said:
Not necessarily an EBMM "fanboy," but I know good basses when I play them. And, what you need to defend yourself about is uninformed statements made by someone who clearly wants to bash everything he does not have...:rollno:
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I don't understand you, really.

What makes my statements uninformed? I played a bass, and it was very uncomfortable to play. Then I played a bass that was comfortable to play. Thus, I thought of the more comfortable one as "better". Where's the flaw in my logic? Where does my lack of information come in?

And I'm not bashing anyone or anything. There were a small handful of basses I simply didn't like. Is there anything you don't like? Have you ever played a bass you didn't like? What would you say if you told someone you didn't like that bass and they told you that you were simply uninformed and bashing? Because that's what you're doing here. Don't put words in my mouth, and don't accuse me of things I haven't done, please.
 
#83
KingRazor said:
I don't understand you, really.

What makes my statements uninformed? I played a bass, and it was very uncomfortable to play. Then I played a bass that was comfortable to play. Thus, I thought of the more comfortable one as "better". Where's the flaw in my logic? Where does my lack of information come in?

And I'm not bashing anyone or anything. There were a small handful of basses I simply didn't like. Is there anything you don't like? Have you ever played a bass you didn't like? What would you say if you told someone you didn't like that bass and they told you that you were simply uninformed and bashing? Because that's what you're doing here. Don't put words in my mouth, and don't accuse me of things I haven't done, please.
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Obviously, logic falls on deaf ears...
 
#85
Lol its not just you. MM basses sound cool in the mix when I hear them at shows, but I've never played one ( and played over at least 20 now, between stingrays, sterlings, bongos etc) that I would say played good. To me they feel awkward like you have to fight the bass to get it to do what you want. Never heard that live tone out of any of them either. Build quality seemed good, basically a dressed up fender, heavy construction. Looked road worthy. Seen more bad than good electronics on them. A little over priced imo.
 
#90
grendle said:
Never found a store that would.
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I went to GC in early summer to trade a Strat I had for a new bass. In looking around the store, I found a 45th Anniversary SR5 HH in the back corner of the "Platinum Room". It had sat there for well over a year and played like dog crap. I asked the tech on duty if he would do a quick setup on it while I checked out the new Classics that had just come in. He did and I ended up taking it home. Plays like butter and looks like a million bucks.

This past weekend, Sam Ash setup a Squier VM Jazz for a kid that was there with his dad just trying gear out. I find most places will do that if you just ask and are cool about it. It also helps to buy something from them every so often even if it is just a pack of strings, picks or Wonder Wipes.
 
#94
georgestrings said:
Either that, or they don't bother to do on the spot setups for "tire kickers"...


- georgestrings
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"tirekickers" or not, it should be in the best interest of any reputable shop that seeks to sell instruments to get all of the instruments hanging on the walls set up decently. I fail to see how it would be a waste of employee resources to give an instrument a 10 minute look-over for setup at a customer request. It benefits every subsequent customer who looks at that bass.
 
#95
georgestrings said:
Yup - kids these days...


- georgestrings
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I said that I'd stop responding to the trolls, but I'd like to reiterate something here:

I never bashed on any brand, and never will. I've never bashed on Fender, I love Fender basses. I don't bash on EBMM, I just didn't like any of the EBMMs that I played. I don't judge a company based on a hand full of instruments.

But for some reason, when I point that out, people choose to simply ignore it. People are funny like that. They'll take one thing I said out of context, misquote it, and then call me ignorant for it.

Isn't rule #1 of talkbass respect? I'm not seeing much respect in this thread. Or even simple logic, for that matter.
 
#96
chunger said:
"tirekickers" or not, it should be in the best interest of any reputable shop that seeks to sell instruments to get all of the instruments hanging on the walls set up decently. I fail to see how it would be a waste of employee resources to give an instrument a 10 minute look-over for setup at a customer request. It benefits every subsequent customer who looks at that bass.
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I don't disagree - but IME, most instruments hanging on the wall in a shop are in need of atleast minor action tweeks, if not more... Also, the OP is a kid who had no intention of buying anything, by his own admission - most music store employees aren't going to set up an instrument for someone who isn't going to buy it anyways...

- georgestrings
 
#98
georgestrings said:
On a totally unrelated note, it's been my experience that a classic troll tactic is to make an off the wall comment or two, then play the victim when contradicted - I'm just sayin'...


- georgestrings
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I've been called that more than once on here. All that tells me is that people don't know what it means.

What was the "off the wall comment" I made, hmm? When did I "play" the victim? Why am I being considered "the victim" anyway? What am I the "victim" of?

All this thread was about was about some observations of a few basses I played, then I suddenly get blamed for bashing on brands, or being simply "wrong" about what I had observed.

Then when I question why this happened, no one seems to have an answer. I wonder why.
 
#99
KingRazor said:
Me saying my SX plays better than that musicman was like me saying that pepperoni pizza from papa murphys tastes better than a combo pizza from round table. I wouldn't be right or wrong, that'd just be my opinion. Yet somehow you think that that opinion means I don't know anything. Ha ha, that's funny.

All of those complaints about my SX are the basically the same ones that I've had about every musicman I've ever played (again, not counting that fretless 5-string).
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It amuses me when people compare basses and give verdicts based mostly on how a particular instrument happened to be setup, or not.
I have tried truly awful Stingrays... and wonderful ones, and delicious cheap Pbass clones, and terrible ones...
 
#100
KingRazor said:
Ah, see, when I go to stores to try out basses, I'm not there to buy, just to look. By the time I have the money to buy, I generally already know what I want beforehand.

I judge basses based on how they play when I play them, I simply can't tell how a bass is going to be after it's setup, so I judge it right "off the shelf". Then it either plays well or it doesn't. If it does play well, then it's good.

I've noticed Ibanez basses tend to play very well off the shelf. More so than basses by a lot of other manufacturers. MIA Fenders tend to be really nice too.

I have learned though that regardless of price point, all basses are hit and miss. Squier, Fender, Ibanez, EBMM, Modulus, they're all hit and miss. Which is why I don't like the idea of buying basses online (still bought an SX and that turned out to be worth it). I really prefer to try the bass in person (before it's setup) before I buy it.

If the bass plays well before it's setup, it tends to play very well afterward.
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As you gain more experience you become better at judging what a bass can be like, once set up to your liking.
I have bought basses that played badly, but they balanced well, felt good, neck was nice, and I could tell it did not need anything unusual to make it work for me.
If I have to wait until a bass I like feels alright off the shelf... I would still play guitar ;-)

But yeah, it takes a while, experience, to understand what makes a bass ok for you despite a bad setup.
 

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