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True stereo bass amplifier

What is ment by "true stereo"? The Microbass 3 is a stereo preamp is it not? TS on FX Send and TRS on FX Return. Stereo XLR outputs. Put a chorus or reverb with stereo out in the loop, and feed two powered cabs, two power amps, a stereo power amp or a recorder and you have stereo. Can a bass preamp get more stereo than that? In that case what would be the typical use? I have this excellent little piece of kit, but to be honest, i have not tried the stereo function. I was thinking to get a QSC 12.2 to go with it, maybe i rather should get a pair.
Where's the stereo instrument input? It sounds like you are describing a mono preamp that can allow for stereo effects units.

As to the Mb3 being true stereo (having two separate instrument inputs/channels with their own preamps/EQ, etc.), I have no idea, I don't know anything about that unit. To me, true stereo is like my stereo home hi-fi system, two totally independent channels (barring, the balance control) from input to output/speakers.
 
What is ment by "true stereo"? The Microbass 3 is a stereo preamp is it not? TS on FX Send and TRS on FX Return. Stereo XLR outputs. Put a chorus or reverb with stereo out in the loop, and feed two powered cabs, two power amps, a stereo power amp or a recorder and you have stereo. Can a bass preamp get more stereo than that? In that case what would be the typical use? I have this excellent little piece of kit, but to be honest, i have not tried the stereo function. I was thinking to get a QSC 12.2 to go with it, maybe i rather should get a pair.
Except the OP asked specifically about bass amps (which the entire signal path including power amps), of which there are very very few.

As you get into preamps and such, that opens up other possibilities as you have mentioned.
 
Where's the stereo instrument input? It sounds like you are describing a mono preamp that can allow for stereo effects units.

As to the Mb3 being true stereo (having two separate instrument inputs/channels with their own preamps/EQ, etc.), I have no idea, I don't know anything about that unit. To me, true stereo is like my stereo home hi-fi system, two totally independent channels (barring, the balance control) from input to output/speakers.
It has two instrument inputs, clean and drive. This would be dual mono. Why you would need a stereo instrument input, as a bass is always mono?
 
Except the OP asked specifically about bass amps (which the entire signal path including power amps), of which there are very very few.

As you get into preamps and such, that opens up other possibilities as you have mentioned.
Yes, i see, sorry. I was just replying to:
EBS is a very cool, and excellent manufacturer; it would have been interesting for them to have made a true stereo bass preamp.
The EBS MB3 preamp has two channels inn and two channels out.

After reading the thread again i realize i have misunderstood the semantics. I have always thought of the Rickenbacker as "two channel" but not "stereo" Stereophonic sound - Wikipedia. I see now that Ampeg calls the before mentioned https://ampeg.com/products/pro/svt4pro/ "Stereo SVT".
 
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Having bass cabs seperated on the stage is problematic due to comb filtering. Means that unless everyone on stage is located equidistant from both cabs the low end will be screwed up. Unless you run a crossover with a single sub box I think.
 
Having bass cabs seperated on the stage is problematic due to comb filtering. Means that unless everyone on stage is located equidistant from both cabs the low end will be screwed up. Unless you run a crossover with a single sub box I think.
In practice, this is much less of an issue than some folks preach. In fact, exactly the same thing occurs with every boundary reflection.
 
I don’t see much of a need for a stereo bass amp for a 4 or 5 string instrument. Old records used to pan the bass hard on one side. Often today, bass sits in the middle of the mix. Processing the signal for an effect doesn’t require a stereo amp.

With a 12 string bass like the Gretsch below, sometimes both guitar and bass amps are used together. There’s highs and lows. But this is an uncommon circumstance.

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After reading the thread again i realize i have misunderstood the semantics.


The terminology is not really used with 100% consistency, so it's sometimes necessary to explain what is meant.

I would think of Ric-O-Sound as stereo if both channels are kept separate from bass all the way through to the speakers. But IMHO there really should be no intent to run the speakers physically separated to try and create any sort of stereo effect, as this will result in undesirable phasing between the cabs. Since there is no intended effect IMHO it could also be called dual mono and I would not quibble.

For the record yes, I have run Ric-O-Sound and tried it with the cabs both separated and together. Running the cabs separated can be cool for the bassist. The phasing comes into play more from the audience's perspective. Separating the cabs will cause the frequency response to vary more at different positions in the room. So if the bass rig is expected to carry the room, separating the cabs is somewhat problematic.

I have multiple bass amps with Dual Mono outputs. They have one channel preamps, but break the signal into two channels. Some have separate volume and effects loops. If you apply stereo effects, it's arguable that you could call it stereo out. Some of them have two outputs, but no separate volume or effects loops. The idea is each channel is 100% identical and the benefit is you can run more speakers. I would call this dual mono, or possibly even just mono.

I also have some amps with two preamp channels but only one power amp. Some of these amps are channel switchers so only one channel is active at a time. But you can run both channels simultaneously on my vintage SVTs. I would call this mono with multiple inputs, then explain whether the inputs are switching or can be run simultaneously.

I also have a bunch of amps and can multi-amp. With Ric-O-Sound you could call it stereo. If you are splitting a full-range mono signal to both amps, I would probably call it dual mono. I would be more likely to call it multi-amping as opposed to biamping. IMHO, Biamping breaks the signal down into high and low frequency ranges. One amp carries the highs, and the other amp carries the lows. There are some people that insist this approach should be called biamping though.

For many years I toured a rig that had the capability to be full stereo. The rig consisted of a rack mixer and stereo power amp. Sometimes it served as my bass amp, and sometimes I added speakers and mics, and it served as a small PA.
 
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1) Welcome to TalkBass!

2) That pedal is not stereo. It has one dry output and one for the effect.
MEL9 | Tape Replay Machine - Electro-Harmonix

3) The Ric isn't stereo either. It has an output for each pickup.

I'm not saying you can't create some very cool sounds by amping each pickup of the Ric, or having a wet/dry rig for the pedal. But nothing you have will be "stereo".

I promise I'm not putting down any of your gear. I just wanted to make sure you had enough info to make an informed decision before plunking down a lot of cash for a complex rig.

Hi two fingers,
thanks for the welcome to TB and your advice,
I think ive almost got an answer to my initial question : where do i find an bass amp thats actually stereo? well not long after posting this question ,
i came across an Eden EM275 combo Amplifier , after reading about its capabilities i went to a town near me , where a guy was selling this very amp , and took my Mel9 along and using his bass ( Epiphone Les Paul ) set it up with one channel panned extreme right , for the Mel 9, the other panned extreme left for the dry bass signal ,the result was remarkable , two seperate sounds : Mel9 Orchestra backing a bass riff,
guy selling the amp was blown away with the effect blended with his bass signal,
so after i bought his amp , took it home and plugged in my 5 string, and found out the hard way , that although the experiment i tried out earlier worked in the way i expected it , what i didnt reckon was the limitation of its low end frequency capabilities, in a nut shell (despite numerous claims that it can handle bass frequencies ) i can confirm that it does not handle a low B bass guitar very well, open B absoluteley distorts the signal output from the speaker, to the point where im seriously thinking about swapping out the speakers from my Gallien Kreuger Bass Combo to overcome this problem , one problem solved ,another one created ,,
Who would be a bass player these days ?
 

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