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"Truthers" and 9/11

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#121
It all depends on how willing you are to stop thinking for yourself and becoming a gullible sap, I mean why bother with actually learning the facts? They just get in the way. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, Rosie Odonnell be the spokeswoman for every conspiracy theory group...
 
#122
Schlyder said:
you are talking about THERMITE.

and why is the hole in the pentagon so small where the impact was??? I would expect a bigger hole from a passenger plane... after all they took down the WTC towers, but only put a 15ft hole in the wall of the pentagon??.
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I would bet the pentatgon is one of the most fortified structures in the world. BUILT take extreme assaults. Therefore the hole is small on that building which would likely devastate another building because of the way the structure is fortified. There is actually vid clip on the net somewhere that shows a University Prof explaining why the hole is small. It has to do with the structure of the building and the intensity of the crash. Basically the plane exploded inside the building... if I recall correctly.

As to why no videotape has been released... think about this... why would one of the most secure buildings in the world give up videotape of how it was breached? I think its partly a security issue as well as one of protecting ones pride.
 
#124
Bass Viking said:
I watched the videos and there appears to be an object hitting the pentagon but I can't tell what it is. There is only one frame with some kind of projectile in it, then the next frame is a fireball.

There must be alot of security cameras in that area. This is the best footage they've got?
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  • She (FBI Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire) determined that the FBI had 85 videotaptes that might be relevant. Of those, 56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."
  • Of the 29 remaining videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
  • Of the 13 remaining tapes which showed the Pentagon crash site, 12 "only showed after the impact of Flight 77."
  • The videotape taken from the Citgo gas station did not show the impact.
  • No videotapes were located from the Sheraton Hotel, though she located a videotape from the Doubletree Hotel.

http://www.flight77.info/85videos.html
 
#125


plus.... that is some pretty amazing flying skills to fly a passenger jet ( in level flight, shown by the video showing something impacting the pentagon) into a building, flying only a few feet off the deck... look at the photos of the exit hole.... it is 16 feet across.. and right a ground level
especially inexperienced hijacker pilots.
 
#128
I don't know what happened that day... but I do know that the evidence doesn't add up with the story...

I am also a journeyman welder, so I understand a little bit about metalurgy..
and I also spent some time as a fireproofer ( fireproofing structural steel for oil refineries and steel structures) ... and the government story of how and why the towers fell is quite a tale... to me those towers looked like they came down under controlled demolition....

And as to building 7.... how did they place the charges in a matter of hours to bring it down, when that kind of job takes weeks to prepare. And all during a fire????
 
#131
Schlyder said:
and they made the CNN news report?? who f*cking cares who uploaded it... I didn't look to see who uploaded it...
it is tape of an on scene news report from CNN that was aired.
I don't support either view yet... I am still studying all the available info.
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The words were right under the video, pretty unavoidable--I read it and expressed my disgust. It speaks to the mindset of some of the folks who spread this crap (this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread).

This is a very brief clip, uploaded to Youtube to create an impression, that means pretty much nothing. A CNN correspondent is attempting to describe the scene in the heat of the moment, giving his opinion. Does he have any particular expertise with such scenes? I doubt it.
 
#133
GregC said:
The uploader of this video called it the "legacy of the zionist nwo".:scowl:
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At one point polls in the Arab world showed 61% believe that arabs did not do the 9/11 attacks. The same polls also showed 52% believed it was a "great victory" for the Arab world. Is there a disconnect there or am I missing something?:D

The Zionists NWO is responsible for a lot of stuff. The San Jose Sharks beating the Wings in the Playoffs, Taylor Swifts poor AMA performance, The ending to the TV show Lost, and decline of the comedic nuances in SNL. So they're the first source I'd go to for expert information on the 9/11 plot. :p:hiding:
 
#134
well the theory that the spray on fireproofing broke away from the steel is bullsh*t. I used that product... it is called Chartek And it is epoxy based. And once it has cured up there isn't anything... not even a jet crashing into a building is going to take that stuff off. I did this with a company called Park Derochie, based out of Edmonton, Alberta. in the early 80s.
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#140
I have no horses in this race, so I can be somewhat impartial... I just watch and see what comes out in the wash. I use what personal facts and knowledge I have, and a healthy BS meter to weigh things out in a Sherlock Holmes type fashion, where once you eliminate the impossible, no matter how implausable the theory.... you are on the right track. There are lots of "near impossibilities",that I am having a hard time accepting the explanations of. That's all

Like the thermite...
I do not understand it's presence in the basement of the WTC. It would not be on a jet plane... or in the building... where did it come from???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_steel 2800*F - to melt carbon steel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel 549.5*F - open air temperature of burning jet fuel
 
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