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Tutmarc audiovox model 736: where are they?

And Here It Is ... "Classic Vibe - Modern Player" Tutmarc Audiovox Bass

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Specs:

Neck

  • wood: 7/8" walnut, Fender-style flat headstock & heel
  • fingerboard: rosewood StewMac, cut down to 32" scale, re-radiused to 12"
  • frets: 20 Fender Jumbo nickel, 20th fret overhanging
  • tuners: Gotoh compact sealed chrome 2+2, inners reversed
  • nut: Gibson-style brass, hand-made, Precision-spacing
  • truss rod: salvaged Epiphone double-acting, shortened 2"
  • attachment: bolt-on, chrome ferrules, SS screws
  • logo: inkjet decal on pearl plastic, lacquered
  • misc: 1/4" pearl markers, Fender black string guides
Body
  • wood: walnut, 1-3/4" thick, laminated from 2x 7/8" pieces, 3/8" edge radius
  • bridge: adjustable high-mass chrome, 18mm string spacing
  • pickguard: aged pearl plastic, SS #4 screws, walnut thumbrest
  • strings: d'Addario roundwound 50-105 medium scale
Electronics
  • pickup: cheap Belcat dual-blade humbucker for Strat, 4-wire, 11k in series
  • pickup switch: on-on-on mini for series / single coil / parallel modes
  • controls: stacked 500k volume & tone, .68uf tone capacitor
  • output: oval chrome side jack plate
Misc
  • finish: deep polished Danish oil, clear
  • overall weight: 7.4 lbs
  • overall length: 42"
  • cost: $300
Notes:

I never intended to build an accurate reproduction of an original Tutmarc. The 16-fret banjo neck on those looks unplayable, and the electronics are primitive. This is more of an "inspired by" ... I kept to the original aesthetics as much as possible while building a modern instrument on a budget. The rounded contours of the bridge, the blade pickup, big black knob, squared-off neck heel, and compact tuners all suggest the original, without giving up anything in playability, tone, range, or function. You could take this thing out on a gig, and you can play it any style you want, from pick to slap.

The stacked knobs keep the one-big-knob aesthetic while adding a tone control. The extra switch is tiny and easily overlooked, while the strap buttons and string hold-downs are black to blend in, because they really shouldn't be there. There is no way I was going to hard-wire a cord into the upper bout, the side output jack is conventional. The whole thing is scaled up about 5% from what I think the original dimensions are, assuming the original scale is 30.5". No extra holes for the thumb rest, which can be mounted in either of 2 positions or left off.

On the back view, you can see how I solved the string pull problem of the reverse-tapered headstock without having the tuners wind all crazy. This also gives sufficient spacing for the bigger tuners, which would otherwise not fit, since Tutmarc originally used small guitar tuners. Likewise, the strings all just barely clear the fat bass string posts. The brass nut was made from bar stock after the original black plastic one broke. This is the first time I've made a nut from brass, it is very soft and easy to work, and doesn't break like plastic. I also like aluminum for nuts.

The finish is basically varnish, which is what you end up with if you use enough Danish oil. Takes forever, I would not recommend it, and will probably never attempt it again. I must have used a gallon of Danish oil building dog-proof furniture in the past year, but it takes too long to get a guitar-quality finish. The color you see is just the wood, no stain at all. I also tried the Danish oil on the fretboard. I would never do that again, it just didn't come out like you'd want, and it took a while to clean it back up.

Walnut is very nice to work with, pity it is not more available in guitar-sized pieces. Very strong and hard, but not as brittle and chip-prone as maple, with a slightly open grain that I filled by wet-sanding in the oil. Now I have lots of scrap-sized pieces left over that I'm sure will find uses. I've already built a walnut floating bridge and tailpiece for another project. Walnut takes glue much better than rosewood, and is as strong as maple but not as hard. My guess is that it is not hard enough to securely hold frets though, that would be an interesting experiment.

It plays really very nice, and will only get better as everything settles in and I continue to tweak it. The neck feels like any modern instrument, which should be no surprise, it is patterned after a standard Fender neck. The small body leads to inevitable ergonomic issues, but no worse than a $10,000 Steinberger. Balance is not as bad as you would think, with the fairly lightweight tuners and heavy bridge for a counterweight. The bridge is a pot metal pain in the ass to set up, I will never use another one like it.

Sounds great. I really had no idea what to expect in terms of tone for this setup, and had a lipstick pickup waiting as a backup in case it didn't work out. But I must say I am very pleased with the sound. The guitar pickup works perfectly, with strong even output across all strings, and no noise. The pickup switching modes are very useful, you can get anything from a Precision to a Jazz sound. The fact that you can get such a range of great bass tones from one cheap guitar pickup ( that I selected more for its looks and price than anything else ) just goes to show how much BS there is in the guitar industry ! The tone control has an extended range thanks to the bigger cap, you can wipe away any trace of highs, and get all Gibson-muddy if you want to. All the electronics are mounted to the pickguard, nice and neat.

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inside view - couldn't be simpler
too bad the pickguard covers the best part of the wood
These pictures are still not quite the final build. The tuners are a little crooked, the pickup is a little crooked, the nut is not fully cut, fingerboard is kind of ugly, and the finish is still not 'finished' - you can always buff it out and rub on another coat with oil. But nothing really noticeable is going to change from here. Most of these issues have already been fixed.

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dog-proof furniture​
 
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The Audiovox is hanging by its tuners while the finish hardens off. Going to be a while longer. The neck has taken a nice bow, and the action has gone pretty high. As expected - wood creeps under static load, that's why there is a steel trussrod. A few more weeks and I'll take it down and finish setting up, the nut can be filed some more as well. Til then, it is a wall decoration.
 
Update:

The Audiovox is hanging by its tuners while the finish hardens off. Going to be a while longer. The neck has taken a nice bow, and the action has gone pretty high. As expected - wood creeps under static load, that's why there is a steel trussrod. A few more weeks and I'll take it down and finish setting up, the nut can be filed some more as well. Til then, it is a wall decoration.

Have you mastere these, I'm really interested in the history of these instruments.
 
alder-

Congratulations on a FABULOUS job! Your final product exceeds anything I ever hoped to see in terms of a "Modern Player Classic Vibe" Tutmarc! I wish I had even a spoonful of the talent required to design, execute and finish such a project. I have been following this whole Tutmarc story from the beginning, and I don't think I've ever seen such a great outcome before from a very small hard-core band of enthusiasts of an historical and largely unknown instrument. To all involved in this fascinating story, and ongoing pursuits to produce a modern "replica", I give thanks. This may be the very best TalkBass thread I have ever read.

alder, I would love to see a closeup shot of the "Maker's Label" on the headstock.

Man, this is FUN.
 
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There were probably a million BetaMax tape machines made, too... but once those proved to be a vastly inferior offering, I'm sure MOST of them just went into the trash.

The Tutmarc bass is only appealing to geeks like us.
Depends on your definition of "inferior" - betamax actually had far better quality video, they just screwed up in the design - not enough tape in the (still bigger than VHS) cartridge at that quality level to fit an entire movie. They got the hard stuff right and the simple stuff wrong and lost the market to an "inferior" (by some measures) product. Happens all the time.
 
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Oh wow! Oh wow! Oh wow! That is fine!!! A tip of the hat and a round of applause, sir. As someone who appreciates uber-light basses like the mezzaluna bantam, I am drawn to your "modern player" Tutmarc. Lovin' it. If only it could also be available as a 34" scale . . .
It can be, if you have the tools & skills... (I don't, but slowly working on them).
 
alder-

alder, I would love to see a closeup shot of the "Maker's Label" on the headstock.

Man, this is FUN.

You can see it pretty good if you look at the pictures full-size. It is a piece of the same pickguard material, sanded thin, which was hell on my fingers, with a laser-printed decal. The decal is a negative of the original brass tag, from a photo. Sealed with lacquer and attached with two small black screws. For the amount of work it took, I probably could have made a brass one, but I think the pearl is nicer than brass.
 
alder said:
The fact that you can get such a range of great bass tones from one cheap guitar pickup ( that I selected more for its looks and price than anything else ) just goes to show how much BS there is in the guitar industry ! The tone control has an extended range thanks to the bigger cap, you can wipe away any trace of highs, and get all Gibson-muddy if you want to.



Love the design and your modernized take on it!



Could you post a link to the exact pickup you used? I searched for Belcat humbucker rail style pickups and there seem to be different versions. The most common list 12.6k, others say 10-11k and some with no resistance info.
 
Love the design and your modernized take on it!



Could you post a link to the exact pickup you used? I searched for Belcat humbucker rail style pickups and there seem to be different versions. The most common list 12.6k, others say 10-11k and some with no resistance info.

I don't think it really matters. These pickups are mass-produced Chinese cheapies, they probably have no specific resistance. They are "strat-sized", dual rail, with 4 leads that can be separated to for coil switching tricks. Since they are made for guitar string spacing, you either need to use a narrow bridge like a mustang, or place it close to the neck. It will not cover a standard bass string spread near the bridge. Since you are not using it for its designed purpose, what do the original specs matter? If it works, it works. And it does. I found a good deal on 10 of them, paid no attention to the specs.
 
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Moonshine :bassist:
This is too cool !!! Found this thread thanks to Bass Outpost linking to it. So here it is, the Audiovox 736.

May I ask regarding the build quality of this instrument? (i think it looks really cool, and it appears nicely done from your pics and your notes: neck thru, string thru.... seems quite innovative for its time. i dig it) :)
 
This is too cool !!! Found this thread thanks to Bass Outpost linking to it. So here it is, the Audiovox 736.

May I ask regarding the build quality of this instrument? (i think it looks really cool, and it appears nicely done from your pics and your notes: neck thru, string thru.... seems quite innovative for its time. i dig it) :)

Wow. Zombie thread...

If anyone is still interested, the woodworking on the original Audiovox was really nice. You could tell that Mr. Tutmarc had a woodworking background of some kind.
it looked like a well made piece of furniture.





Moonshine :bassist:
 

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