Two 410s placement on stage with 2 guitars

[will33]

If need be, turn one cab sideways to face the other members, but still keep them stacked together.

 

[David Jayne]

Right before the first set, tell the guitarists that Joan Jett is in the back by the bar. While they go to find her, turn the bass eq all the way down on their rigs and crazy glue the knobs. Problem solved. I'm afraid to say otherwise you are going to go nuts tweaking to fix a problem that should not exist. They cant hear you because they are washed out by their own low end.

Or if you have time, rewire their speakers out of phase.

 

[carl h.]

Place one 410 under the 412 of the muddy guitar. It will get his speakers pointing at his ear holes and uncouple him from the floor. Have this cab connected to your amp. Place the other cab under the other guitar's 412 and run a cable to your amp, but don't plug it in. Once again it will aim his amp at his head so he hears what he is inflicting on everyone else.

A single 410 will probably be plenty loud with the guitars pointed at themselves. I've done this and it has brought the levels down and improved sound, until the keyboard player brings a synth and plugs in.

 

[Chad Michael]

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"side-filling" your cabs. That is, don't face your cabs at the crowd at all. That is, turn it 90 degrees, so it faces across the stage. Your guitarist should have an easier time hearing it that way.

Hope this helps!

Yes, this. You didn't buy amplifiers/ cabinets to be stage decorations, you bought them for stage mix. Many guitarists / drummers / sound men have thanked me for realizing this, it works. Stack the two 410's.. and fire them across the stage.

 

[Marley's Ghost]

Or if you have time, rewire their speakers out of phase.

Or, just disconnect the bottom 12's and rewire top 12's to 8 ohms. They will never notice.

 

[AdamR]

Hey....you're right!
I already bump mids quite a bit, but now that you mention it the second guitarist that is on the other side does have quite a bit of low end on his cab. He has an old marshall 412.

Ig he's using the common JCM900 cab (300watts) its loaded with G12-75's and they are pretty scoop. He doesnt need to boost mids. Luckily both the guitarist in my band admit to knowing nothing about EQ and let me dial in their tones.

 

[claytitan]

The lows coming from your amp should cover the stage since they are omnidirectional. Put a little of the bass in the monitors for definition if they can't hear it.

For Pete's sake have them point those guitar amps at themselves and turn down. I know I am making assumptions but I've seen it so many times. Guitar player with amp blaring pointed at the back of their knees. Then they say they can't hear anything. And they wonder why the audience won't come within 30 ft of the band.

I finally got my guitarist thinking right on this. I still can't get him to take out a little bit of his lows though.