U.S. Peavey Club

[58kites]

You could have it taken apart then rebuilt but I doubt it would sound the same , quite important when you need a pair. Wire gauge/wind pattern/space left all play a part in how a pickup sounds.
You certainly don't need Darkstar or BiSonic unless trying to capture a similar visual.
Seymour Duncan SMB-4D is a 4 wire ceramic so switching from single coil to humbucker is easy , being reasonably close in DCR to the T-40 is another thing in it's favour.

Does a SMB-4D sound like a T40 pickup?
Is there a humbucker available that sounds like T40 pup?
Not to pair with a second T40 pup, just a pickup that sounds like one.
Size, shape and DCR not being a factor.

 

[kodiakblair]

Does a SMB-4D sound like a T40 pickup?

Not being a fan of Seymour Duncan pickups I'm inclined to think no. That said I've found pickup position has more bearing on tone than DCR, magnet type etc , they'll have subtle changes but the general character remains.

Reason I mentioned the Duncan is they have similar properties.

Both use ceramic magnets.
Both can be tapped.
Both have quite low wire wind counts but only where it concerns the toaster. Toaster got 3750 turns of AWG 42 per coil for a 2.8k reading ,the Duncan reads 2.6k per coil.

That's it as regards similarities

@Larry Balara

Since I'm on T-40 pickup specs it might be an idea to take some notes , pickup rewind could run as little as $40

Now if your 40 has blades , the spec is different. The coils on blades are wound to 5.22k , might be 40 AWG.

Make sure the rewind person keeps and reuses the blades and bar magnets , they are an awkward size to replace.
Also tell them to wire wind like the first time, the original Peavey winding is extremely sloppy with wire sticking out beyond the bobbin being common.

 

[Larry Balara]

Not being a fan of Seymour Duncan pickups I'm inclined to think no. That said I've found pickup position has more bearing on tone than DCR, magnet type etc , they'll have subtle changes but the general character remains.

Reason I mentioned the Duncan is they have similar properties.

Both use ceramic magnets.
Both can be tapped.
Both have quite low wire wind counts but only where it concerns the toaster. Toaster got 3750 turns of AWG 42 per coil for a 2.8k reading ,the Duncan reads 2.6k per coil.

That's it as regards similarities

@Larry Balara

Since I'm on T-40 pickup specs it might be an idea to take some notes , pickup rewind could run as little as $40

Now if your 40 has blades , the spec is different. The coils on blades are wound to 5.22k , might be 40 AWG.

Make sure the rewind person keeps and reuses the blades and bar magnets , they are an awkward size to replace.
Also tell them to wire wind like the first time, the original Peavey winding is extremely sloppy with wire sticking out beyond the bobbin being common.

As I said in my original post, I do not think the pick need rewinding. I think one or more of the four wires is loose on the pickup end as I can tap on the pickup (as with my fingers) and the pickup comes back on. Now I am assuming if one of the windings is loose the pickup would distort or do something other than stop working.

 

[tindrum]

First time this has happened to me. I just realized one end of a fret is lifting slightly on my 1994 Fury. I found a buzz and diagnosed it from there. It's raised about a fingernail's thickness and only affects the G string. I'm not a luthier but I see two options. Tap it back down and hope it doesn't raise again or leave as is and file the fret. I only use this as a practice bass so I guess I could just leave it alone and deal with it too. Thoughts.

Tapping it down is far and away the best method. If you file it down you’ll never get that metal back. It needs to be tapped down and to have a little thinned out super glue wicked into the gap.

 

[Runnerman]

Tapping it down is far and away the best method. If you file it down you’ll never get that metal back. It needs to be tapped down and to have a little thinned out super glue wicked into the gap.

Good plan. I will go that route. Thank you!

 

[Larry Balara]

As I said in my original post, I do not think the pick need rewinding. I think one or more of the four wires is loose on the pickup end as I can tap on the pickup (as with my fingers) and the pickup comes back on. Now I am assuming if one of the windings is loose the pickup would distort or do something other than stop working.

Will this pickup 1982 Peavey T-series Dual Blade Humbucker Bridge Pickup version II USA | eBay work in the neck position of my T-40?

 

[berklee46]

Good plan. I will go that route. Thank you!

I’ve found this, along with a fret rocker, to be a great tool for small quick jobs like this.
Hosco Brass Fret Setter

 

[mb94952]

Will this pickup 1982 Peavey T-series Dual Blade Humbucker Bridge Pickup version II USA | eBay work in the neck position of my T-40?

I was doing a little research because I was curious and found this article. It says the answer is YES, but you need to switch the value of the cap. I'd love to know if anyone has done it. I looked on Youtube and didn't see any. I'm also sprprised that the circuit will work on ANY HH guitar.
The Fascinating Peavey T-60 Tone Circuit

 

[Bleecker]

No idea if this will fit or not, but I thought I would share it with you.
Peavey HP Special EX cavity covers https://reverb.com/item/46072995-pe...are&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=46072995

Looks to be the same to me...

 

[Bleecker]

Anyone else think that black T40 has been refinished? Badly.

I think its original/beat up. Looks to be a player to me. I like a good player as long as its not too spent, I bet Your hands would just fall around that neck!

 

[58kites]

Not being a fan of Seymour Duncan pickups I'm inclined to think no. That said I've found pickup position has more bearing on tone than DCR, magnet type etc , they'll have subtle changes but the general character remains.

Reason I mentioned the Duncan is they have similar properties.

Both use ceramic magnets.
Both can be tapped.
Both have quite low wire wind counts but only where it concerns the toaster. Toaster got 3750 turns of AWG 42 per coil for a 2.8k reading ,the Duncan reads 2.6k per coil.

That's it as regards similarities

I put a new Taiwan made 60's Thunderbird clone pickup in one of my Fury basses in the split P pickup location and the bass sounds like a Thunderbird.
Maybe Gibson located the front Thunderbird pickup in the same spot as the Precision though.
I agree position matters a lot, but I think different types/sizes/construction of pickups can sound pretty different in the same spot.

 

[mb94952]

I put a new Taiwan made 60's Thunderbird clone pickup in one of my Fury basses in the split P pickup location and the bass sounds like a Thunderbird.
Maybe Gibson located the front Thunderbird pickup in the same spot as the Precision though.
I agree position matters a lot, but I think different types/sizes/construction of pickups can sound pretty different in the same spot.

Oh I'd love to see that on YT !!!

 

[cmcbass]

I joined the club today. Got a Fury in fairly rough shape. The body is beat up, but the neck feels good, and that's what matters most to me. It certainly has what some would call the "Mojo."

I cleaned up the frets, put on some elixir stainless steels, and did a quick set-up. It needs some more clean up, and a bit more attention to the setup, but the bass sounds really good and plays great.

The pickup seems to be cemented in place, and the two halves of the split coil seem to be fused together. I'll have to get the pickguard off and check what's going on with that at a later date.

Anyway, here are some pics.

 

[mb94952]

I joined the club today. Got a Fury in fairly rough shape. The body is beat up, but the neck feels good, and that's what matters most to me. It certainly has what some would call the "Mojo."

I cleaned up the frets, put on some elixir stainless steels, and did a quick set-up. It needs some more clean up, and a bit more attention to the setup, but the bass sounds really good and plays great.

The pickup seems to be cemented in place, and the two halves of the split coil seem to be fused together. I'll have to get the pickguard off and check what's going on with that at a later date.

Anyway, here are some pics.
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Welcome to US Peavey Club !
THAT is exactly how I feel about my FURY. As long as it plays well and has mojo, wha's not to love ? The Fury is one of the best al time Pbasses, in MY opinion. They just feel RIGHT.

 

[cmcbass]

Welcome to US Peavey Club !
THAT is exactly how I feel about my FURY. As long as it plays well and has mojo, wha's not to love ? The Fury is one of the best al time Pbasses, in MY opinion. They just feel RIGHT.

I was honestly surprised with how good it sounds and feels. I read as many reviews as I could find before buying it, and they all had high praise. I didn't expect the bass to feel so solid. I kept my expectations low because it was an online purchase, and now that I've played it for a couple hours, I'm really happy with the purchase!

 

[mb94952]

I was honestly surprised with how good it sounds and feels. I read as many reviews as I could find before buying it, and they all had high praise. I didn't expect the bass to feel so solid. I kept my expectations low because it was an online purchase, and now that I've played it for a couple hours, I'm really happy with the purchase!

That is so awesome, cmbass. I think the Peavey Fury has officially reached vintage badass status.

 

[kodiakblair]

I agree position matters a lot, but I think different types/sizes/construction of pickups can sound pretty different in the same spot.

Sorry I didn't put that too clearly , should have included like for like. Swapping one humbucker/single coil/split-coil etc for another generally makes for subtle differences but nothing earth shattering.

I've a Thunderbird pickup in a P-bass , still sounds a lot like a P-bass to me

It says the answer is YES, but you need to switch the value of the cap.

The cap value difference concerns the tone circuit use in guitar vs bass ; not the pickup.

$64k question is "Are T-60 pickups the same size as T-40 pickups ?"

If they're smaller it's $119 wasted.

 

[bigtone23]

Anyone else think that black T40 has been refinished? Badly.

Perhaps. The back of one of my black Foundations looks nearly the same. It's from reacting to the deteriorating foam in the chainsaw case.

First time this has happened to me. I just realized one end of a fret is lifting slightly on my 1994 Fury. I found a buzz and diagnosed it from there. It's raised about a fingernail's thickness and only affects the G string. I'm not a luthier but I see two options. Tap it back down and hope it doesn't raise again or leave as is and file the fret. I only use this as a practice bass so I guess I could just leave it alone and deal with it too. Thoughts.

Tapping it down is far and away the best method. If you file it down you’ll never get that metal back. It needs to be tapped down and to have a little thinned out super glue wicked into the gap.

Came in to offer this same advice. Glue + tap/clamp.

I put a new Taiwan made 60's Thunderbird clone pickup in one of my Fury basses in the split P pickup location and the bass sounds like a Thunderbird.
Maybe Gibson located the front Thunderbird pickup in the same spot as the Precision though.
I agree position matters a lot, but I think different types/sizes/construction of pickups can sound pretty different in the same spot.

The Thunderbird front pickup (27 11/16" from the nut) is pretty much in the exact same place as the Jazz bass front pickup (27 3/4" from the nut), which is pretty darn close to the front coil of a split P pickup (28" from the nut) on either a P or a Fury (or the front pickup of a Foundation or Dyna--also 28" from the nut). FWIW, the rear pickup of a Thunderbird (31 3/16") is really close to the 60s Jazz bass location (31 5/16").

 

[Bleecker]

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Yeah I got a few questions about the Foundation you have for sale...umm first...what color is it!?!

What a joke, they got the backdrop looking pretty good, now all they need is a light!...but they're workin' on it I suppose!

Ok rant over, carry on...

 

[Bleecker]

I think it would be fun to start a "show us your Peavey's" thread...?