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U.S. Peavey Club

When I look at the truss rod access on my patriot neck I tend to think Peavey doesn't always attend to details real well. It looks like they chipped it out with screwdriver and a hammer. But usually they got the important stuff right. I agree the neck tilt seems like a janky thing, but for me it works, so I guess if it's good, it's good.
 
Hi good people. Lately I join the club.
I'm a quite long time Peavey fan. I owned several guitars and amplifiers (still have a Ranger 212) but this is not the place.

I spent time on a T40, playing it and restoring a few. I confirm it can be one of the top 5 passive basses of all time (weight aside). I played a slanted Fury on an american tour with my band (good one for being a medium line). Also I had a Forum 4 (heavy one. Not impressed, I wish it had different electronics. Tastebuds).

Here is my new acquisition. A Peavey Dyna Bass Unity Series in Koa/Purple heart, all original.
I'm probably still in honeymoon but it's a sure thing the bass is top notch. Neck profile is... wow. I thought pickups and electronics were "meh" because I saw a lot of upgrading on the internet but it can go from warm to snappy as it is.

My strings are ringing a little behind the nut. Has someone added a string retainer to it?
 

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Hi good people. Lately I join the club.
I'm a quite long time Peavey fan. I owned several guitars and amplifiers (still have a Ranger 212) but this is not the place.

I spent time on a T40, playing it and restoring a few. I confirm it can be one of the top 5 passive basses of all time (weight aside). I played a slanted Fury on an american tour with my band (good one for being a medium line). Also I had a Forum 4 (heavy one. Not impressed, I wish it had different electronics. Tastebuds).

Here is my new acquisition. A Peavey Dyna Bass Unity Series in Koa/Purple heart, all original.
I'm probably still in honeymoon but it's a sure thing the bass is top notch. Neck profile is... wow. I thought pickups and electronics were "meh" because I saw a lot of upgrading on the internet but it can go from warm to snappy as it is.

My strings are ringing a little behind the nut. Has someone added a string retainer to it?

BEAUTIFUL!!!
 
When I look at the truss rod access on my patriot neck I tend to think Peavey doesn't always attend to details real well. It looks like they chipped it out with screwdriver and a hammer. But usually they got the important stuff right. I agree the neck tilt seems like a janky thing, but for me it works, so I guess if it's good, it's good.

The truss rod access is a funny thing. Some are really deep, some are shallow. Some need a good cleaning of glue and dust residue to access the adjustment nut better. I have done a lot of truss rod access detail work!
I agree that a lot of them are pretty sloppy and I think maybe that is part of their bi-laminated neck construction.
I think they might have been better off with three or five piece neck construction.
Their truss rod covers being centered has often been pretty hit or miss.
Peaveys are strange... main manufacturing/construction was done with machines from the beginning but still there was a ton of sloppiness that was beyond Fender's.
At the same time, their necks always feel great and I like their many different pickup designs.
All my Peavey truss rod nuts have been intact and not rounded off, and all of those truss rods have functioned well.

That area of the neck is the most delicate spot with a lot going on with the nut slot and the transition to the headstock.
I think moving the truss rod access from the heel to headstock at Fender was a mistake and the correct fix would have been to just route a little bit of body access at the heel like the Yamaha BB basses or the awesome Musicman wheel at the heel.
That keeps the whole headstock/nut/volute area cleaner and more solid.
 
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God I love this bass sir...:drool: and, yes, the maple/rosewood neck on your 1st Gen Fury came off of an '87 3TS Fury. :bassist: That '87 3TS Fury body now has the all rosewood 32" Warmoth Warhead neck on it and a black pickguard (I need to take a better pic of this bass...you can see a stock pick of that bass before I took her apart for @58kites and I here) :D

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Here are some better pics and details about this bass...

Dómur
"Warvey Warbird FLPP$" (Fury Lane Poor Precision Bucker)
1987 Peavey Fury Body (Tobacco Sunburst)

Dómur translates from Old Norse to "Judgement"...because I'm a huge effing nerd, I named this thing after the Judgement Staff...a mystical item that casts powerful and devastating/destructive magic. This bass, with the reverse P and the Legacy Lane Poor MM pickup just absolutely rips, so the name is fitting. Such GREAT tone and BALLS! The neck is also a dream to play. I love the double dark Indian rosewood combo! :hyper::bassist:

Apologies on my lack of picture taking skill:

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Mods Executed:
  • Replaced stock maple/rosewood Peavey Fury neck (now on @58kites' amazing 1st Gen Fury) with 32" scale dark Indian rosewood (with dark Indian rosewood fingerboard) Warmoth Warhead neck
  • Installed all black hardware (tuners, Hipshot Kickass bridge)
  • Routed the body to accommodate a reversed Precision pickup and MM pickup near the bridge
  • Shielded control cavity
  • Re-installed the stock Peavey Fury P pickup in reverse
  • Installed Legacy Lane Poor Musicman-style pickup
  • Wired the bass with master volume, blend control and master tone controls
  • Installed custom matte black pickguard cut for reversed Precision pickup
Mods To Be Executed:
  • Install Lane Poor Precision-style pickup (though I am on the fence at this point as the stock Fury pickup sounds SURPRISINGLY good paired with the Legacy Lane Poor MM)
 
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I agree that a lot of them are pretty sloppy and I think maybe that is part of their bi-laminated neck construction.
I think they might have been better off with three or five piece neck construction.
Their truss rod covers being centered has often been pretty hit or miss.
Peaveys are strange... main manufacturing/construction was done with machines from the beginning but still there was a ton of sloppiness that was beyond Fender's.
At the same time, their necks always feel great and I like their many different pickup designs.
All my Peavey truss rod nuts have been intact and not rounded off, and all of those truss rods have functioned well.

That area of the neck is the most delicate spot with a lot going on with the nut slot and the transition to the headstock.
I think moving the truss rod access from the heel to headstock at Fender was a mistake and the correct fix would have been to just route a little bit of body access at the heel like the Yamaha BB basses or the awesome Musicman wheel at the heel.
That keeps the whole headstock/nut/volute area cleaner and more solid.
Agreed. My favorite feeling Peavey necks are the early, wide ones. But my favorite one to adjust is hands down the Milly BXP4 import neck with the truss rod wheel lol
 
What I'm suggesting doesn't change the status of replaceability or disposability.
It would have been very little effort to install four threaded inserts in their neck heels and to use machine screws instead of those wood screws.
Not expensive and not a lot of work in production.
They had to drill pilot holes in the neck heel anyway.
The cost of the neck plate could have reduced by using four countersunk finishing washers instead.

As far as disposability, lots of people go to a lot of trouble with maintenance and upkeep with their old necks that they've gotten very used to.
Threaded inserts with stainless bolts is how we mounted bolt on necks at 916 when we built guitar and bass. Never liked the sheet metal screws used in "bolt on necks"
 
Has anyone tried replacing early-mid 90s usa peavey tuners with Schaller BM tuners? Do the four screw holes line up? I looked at the measurements online and they look mighty close...

If not Schaller BM, Hipshot HB1? Other (branded)?

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Here are some better pics and details about this bass...

Dómur
"Warvey Warbird FLPP$" (Fury Lane Poor Precision Bucker)
1987 Peavey Fury Body (3TS)

Dómur translates from Old Norse to "Judgement"...because I'm a huge effing nerd, I named this thing after the Judgement Staff...a mystical item that casts powerful and devastating/destructive magic. This bass, with the reverse P and the Legacy Lane Poor MM pickup just absolutely rips, so the name is fitting. Such GREAT tone and BALLS! The neck is also a dream to play. I love the double dark Indian rosewood combo! :hyper::bassist:

Mods Executed:
  • Replaced stock maple/rosewood Peavey Fury neck (now on @58kites' amazing 1st Gen Fury) with 32" scale dark Indian rosewood (with dark Indian rosewood fingerboard) Warmoth Warhead neck
  • Installed all black hardware (tuners, Hipshot Kickass bridge)
  • Routed the body to accommodate a reversed Precision pickup and MM pickup near the bridge
  • Shielded control cavity
  • Re-installed the stock Peavey Fury P pickup in reverse
  • Installed Legacy Lane Poor Musicman-style pickup
  • Wired the bass with master volume, blend control and master tone controls
  • Installed custom matte black pickguard cut for reversed Precision pickup
Mods To Be Executed:
  • Install Lane Poor Precision-style pickup (though I am on the fence at this point as the stock Fury pickup sounds SURPRISINGLY good paired with the Legacy Lane Poor MM)
That body now looks like an expensive body, ...sometimes an illusion is created by the company that you keep. ;)
Peavey did a nice job with the burst on that one, I really prefer tobacco sunburst over the three color sunburst.
The single ply matte black pickguard was a good choice too.
I bet that Lane Poor sounds great.

The neck/bass is awfully sexy from behind ...just like my wife!! :D
 
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That body now looks like an expensive body, ...sometimes an illusion is created by the company that you keep. ;)
Peavey did a nice job with the burst on that one, I really prefer tobacco sunburst over the three color sunburst.
The single ply matte black pickguard was a good choice too.
I bet that Lane Poor sounds great.

The neck/bass is awfully sexy from behind ...just like my wife!! :D
The construction of Lane Poors is much different than conventional pickups. They are not anything crazy. Ceramic in coil / low wind pickups but the construction makes me think he had a background in building electrical transformers
 
That body now looks like an expensive body, ...sometimes an illusion is created by the company that you keep. ;)
Peavey did a nice job with the burst on that one, I really prefer tobacco sunburst over the three color sunburst.
The single ply matte black pickguard was a good choice too.
I bet that Lane Poor sounds great.

The neck/bass is awfully sexy from behind ...just like my wife!! :D
Got to love sexy from behind. ;) I like my basses to be like my wife too :bassist::drool:
 
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The construction of Lane Poors is much different than conventional pickups. They are not anything crazy. Ceramic in coil / low wind pickups but the construction makes me think he had a background in building electrical transformers
@Matt Kustom Have you pulled them apart before? I have the LP Precision-style pickup in storage...bought a long time ago for a good price but I have never tried it and have NO idea what it sounds like.

@58kites, the LLP MM$ sounds so articulate but also can slam you in the face with its power...I was surprised. I was under the impression that LPs were a little tamer to pair well with preamps. Nothing tame about this pickup.

I ran it through my Mesa D180 tube amp with a pedal that emulates a Sunn Model T and it nearly shook the house off the foundation. :bassist:
 
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@Matt Kustom Have you pulled them apart before? I have the LP Precision-style pickup in storage...bought a long time ago for a good price but I have never tried it and have NO idea what it sounds like.

@58kites, the LLP MM$ sounds so articulate but also can slam you in the face with its power...I was surprised. I was under the impression that LPs were a little tamer to pair well with preamps. Nothing tame about this pickup.

I ran it through my Mesa D180 tube amp with a pedal that emulates a Sunn Model T and it nearly shook the house off the foundation. :bassist:
There was a teardown on music electronics forum I was following years ago trying to learn about pickups. A lot of winders over there. One guy took his MM LP to a belt sander and documented the thing. The wire is larger than typical magnet wire used in pickups , the bobbins were totally full yet still only came out to like 6k. Maybe a 40 or 38awg. Also the coils were baked iirc due to the use of bonded wire. Also heavily shielded. The entire package was surrounded with copper foil. The basic pickup was large Ceramic magnets in coil. No pole piece

If anyone is interested in that topic

Any valuable info on Lane Poor MM pups? - Music Electronics Forum

Mm5 belt sander , pictures are gone , guess the website did not want to host for long.

A look inside a Lane Poor MM5. - Music Electronics Forum
 
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@Matt Kustom Have you pulled them apart before? I have the LP Precision-style pickup in storage...bought a long time ago for a good price but I have never tried it and have NO idea what it sounds like.

@58kites, the LLP MM$ sounds so articulate but also can slam you in the face with its power...I was surprised. I was under the impression that LPs were a little tamer to pair well with preamps. Nothing tame about this pickup.

I ran it through my Mesa D180 tube amp with a pedal that emulates a Sunn Model T and it nearly shook the house off the foundation. :bassist:
I should correct myself , LPs are not necessarily low wind but low DCR. Whatever wire size he used is bigger than #42awg , maybe a 38 awg. IDK. Never took one apart myself. Some of the coil reads people have pulled off LP pickups are crazy low .
 
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Has anyone tried replacing early-mid 90s usa peavey tuners with Schaller BM tuners? Do the four screw holes line up? I looked at the measurements online and they look mighty close...

If not Schaller BM, Hipshot HB1? Other (branded)?

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I'm curious about this, too. The '94 Forum Plus tuners are still working fine, but knowing about a swappable set...
 
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Hi All! I have an 83 T-20 that's all original except for the saddles, and I think the saddle/intonation screws. The T-20 saddles are quite a bit smaller than the originals from what I can tell. I'd like to restore the T-20 with some of the beefier saddles that would have come with it originally.

I'm not finding any T-20 bridges/saddles at the moment. Are the saddles from a foundation or fury from approximately the same year interchangeable with what would have come on the T-20?

OR anybody have a lead on an OG T-20 bridge/saddles? :)
 
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Slant pickup Surround arrived today. I was able to get it into my basic CAD program. I'm going to send the file to a friend that does 2D in a pro CAD program to get it smoother. Here are some pics of the cardboard test piece , some left over PTFE from a dashboard rebuild and some plywood. If someone wants these remade Wood would probably be best as the plastics as a finished product laser cut does not look great.
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