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U.S. Peavey Club
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Installed all the big brands , Gotoh for the win. Gotoh is my go to
Highly recommended. Wish mine were exposed blades, they look great to my eyes.
Hello everyone...random question! Let me set the stage...I (like many of you) love the sound of an old Spector NS-2...classic stuff. I also love to mod the ever-lovin snot out of Peaveys as is well documented at this point....I have a problem 
How do you think a Precision shaped rail SF pickup like @Matt Kustom produces (above), set in the reversed P position with a classic Foundation/Dyna SF at the bridge position in one of those elusive maple-bodied Patriots would sound (especially if I was to find and install a Haz preamp in the beast)?
@ctmullins, I have a sneaking suspicion you may have some thoughts on this but I'm sure a bunch of the rest of you fine Peavey enthusiasts will too. Thanks in advance!
How do you think a Precision shaped rail SF pickup like @Matt Kustom produces (above), set in the reversed P position with a classic Foundation/Dyna SF at the bridge position in one of those elusive maple-bodied Patriots would sound (especially if I was to find and install a Haz preamp in the beast)?
@ctmullins, I have a sneaking suspicion you may have some thoughts on this but I'm sure a bunch of the rest of you fine Peavey enthusiasts will too. Thanks in advance!
IMHO bet it would sound great. But... If you really wanna go over the top how about about add two of the matching SF Js @ the bridge (wired as one pup?) with a series/parallel switch.Hello everyone...random question! Let me set the stage...I (like many of you) love the sound of an old Spector NS-2...classic stuff. I also love to mod the ever-lovin snot out of Peaveys as is well documented at this point....I have a problem
How do you think a Precision shaped rail SF pickup like @Matt Kustom produces (above), set in the reversed P position with a classic Foundation/Dyna SF at the bridge position in one of those elusive maple-bodied Patriots would sound (especially if I was to find and install a Haz preamp in the beast)?
@ctmullins, I have a sneaking suspicion you may have some thoughts on this but I'm sure a bunch of the rest of you fine Peavey enthusiasts will too. Thanks in advance!
While I do like Schaller it's Gotoh for me also.
Have Gotoh mini tuners still functioning great despite fast approaching 50 y.o.
I thought Schaller was going to be the best when I tried their tunners many years ago. They are nice but I was disappointed in their machining compared to Gotoh. Another issue was their Customer Service. I contacted asking a basic question and the reply had the feeling of I was bothering them. I do wish they still made their 456 bridge. No idea why they stopped making that bridge.
Customer service in Europe is not the same as in the USA, here they deal with the matter in hand and ONLY the matter in hand
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Hello everyone...random question! Let me set the stage...I (like many of you) love the sound of an old Spector NS-2...classic stuff. I also love to mod the ever-lovin snot out of Peaveys as is well documented at this point....I have a problem
How do you think a Precision shaped rail SF pickup like @Matt Kustom produces (above), set in the reversed P position with a classic Foundation/Dyna SF at the bridge position in one of those elusive maple-bodied Patriots would sound (especially if I was to find and install a Haz preamp in the beast)?
@ctmullins, I have a sneaking suspicion you may have some thoughts on this but I'm sure a bunch of the rest of you fine Peavey enthusiasts will too. Thanks in advance!
Interesting.
Reverse P trumps normal P for single-pickup stuff, and also a brace of them. But a single (reverse) P with a soapbar will do that thing where the lower strings have a different comb filter response than the upper strings, because the sensing positions are separated by different distances. Which is the same as what the Spector (and others) arrangement does too. So if that’s part of what you’re looking for, then yay, go for it!
I bet that would be a great combination. SFs have some output, and they sound better at the Patriot position vs the Foundy/Dyna bridge position. That 2 1/4" shift makes a massive difference in perceived output and low/low-mid punch. That is enough to really make it balance out with a P type split coil.Hello everyone...random question! Let me set the stage...I (like many of you) love the sound of an old Spector NS-2...classic stuff. I also love to mod the ever-lovin snot out of Peaveys as is well documented at this point....I have a problem
How do you think a Precision shaped rail SF pickup like @Matt Kustom produces (above), set in the reversed P position with a classic Foundation/Dyna SF at the bridge position in one of those elusive maple-bodied Patriots would sound (especially if I was to find and install a Haz preamp in the beast)?
@ctmullins, I have a sneaking suspicion you may have some thoughts on this but I'm sure a bunch of the rest of you fine Peavey enthusiasts will too. Thanks in advance!
A caveat is where the P pickup will be located. If in the proper P spot, it will be very close to overlapping the Patriot bridge pickup. The P pickup is traditionally centered 28.5" from the nut, which puts the bridge side coil's bridge edge extended to about 29.5" from the nut. The Patriot pickup is centered about 29 11/16" from the nut, which puts the neck side edge around 29 1/8" from the nut. If the P pickup is moved a touch neckward, no biggie.
I will also share what I found to be a really killer pickup combo.
When I was doing the incremental mods towards the final revision of the T-42.5, the first stop was the SF in the neck, a Toaster in the bridge, using the mini switch to split to the bridge side coil. A single coil of a Toaster wasn't quite as great sounding as a SF soloed, but sounded good in combination with the neck pickup. However, series mode of the bridge Toaster blended really well with a neck SF, both in volume and tonality. The neck SF had punch and clarity, and the bridge Toaster was a little thicker and smoother vs a SF. They sounded so good together that when I did finally install the neck Toaster, I was a little let down by the tonality, but liked the look better (especially once the green pickup rings were installed).
When I sussed out how to split to the inside coils and have hum cancelling, I was very happy with the T-42.5.
Damn, nice work Bigtone23. I need to get off my a$$ and finish my Patriot body / G&L MFD bridge pu / T15 neck pu project
I start the topcoat process on my 92 Foundation tomorrow. The question I have for when that’s done is do I keep the stock bridge or use a Hipshot Supertone I have sitting around? I also found a true blend pot (i.e., no volume drop at the detent like a pan pot), so going blend, volume, tone.
Neck just sitting there for color reference.
Neck just sitting there for color reference.
Looking good. I like the color! Not a fan of Hipshot bridges. Keep it stock and simple. IMO. YMMV.
Looks good!
The original Gibson 3 point bridge is an OK bridge design at best. I'm sure this Hipshot would really improve a bass with the stock bridge. However, I'm not sure about using a 3 point replacement bridge on the Foundy. It will sit too high off the body. I'd do some measurements, then again, then again before proceeding.
The Gibson 3 point sits pretty high off the body to allow proper string height with the steeper neck angle found on Gibson basses. The 2 point and 3 point Hipshot bridges have minimum/maximum string heights of .525-.750" and .625-.835".
The bolt neck Peavey basses are more Fender style: flatter geometry, less neck angle, requiring lower profile bridge/saddles. A Fender-y bridge has minimum and max heights more like the Hipshot "Vintage" bass bridge: .375-.665", or the B style bridge with .39-.68" adjustments.
Even some of the earlier Foundys with the trapezoidal bridge and really large diameter saddles can bottom out pretty easily if the neck angle is pretty flat. 58Kites found some smaller diameter brass saddles from Hipshot to retrofit on the Peavey bridge that don't bottom out, allowing lower action.
Perhaps if the Gibson-y bridge was countersunk a little, it may work better, but that's another skillful rout job.
My go-to has been the MusicLilly brass saddles on Amazon. The other popular mod is to repurpose the saddles from a Wilkinson bridge. I've done this on almost all my Peaveys. With a little shim on the early Foundy and Furies, you can get nice action without the dreaded micro-tilt.
It's a 2-point meant for an EB-3. Turned out my Greco copy had a much narrower neck heel than the Gibson, so the string spacing wasn't going to work. I ended up selling it for twice what I paid for it. I have 6 3-point bridge based basses and all have nice low action. Once you get the process down for setup, they work fine.
Your point about string height is good. I'll have to measure as the bottom plate is thicker than the stock bridge.
No on that Hipshot bridge, it was intended to improve Gibson's crap design but it is no improvement (it's heavy) over the stock bridge that was on the Peavey.
Simple Fender style bridges work great if you don't need some feature that a Hipshot can provide like the left to right adjustable saddles on their Type A bridges.
I think the Peavey bridge you have is perfect for that bass.
The replacement saddles for the Peavey Trapezoidal Bridge (1983-85ish) that have worked best for me are the Wilkinson brass saddles on their $15 bridge.
Perfect diameter and perfect width.
Threaded saddles serve the same purpose but you can go DIY and cut slots with a hacksaw, rotary tool like a Dremel speeds the process up a fair bit
