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Ultra modern bass redux

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The Ibanez EHB and Kiesel Zeus (the single cut headless one) body shape and overall look is nearly IDEAL to me. I just wish they made a "deluxe" version that didn't skimp on the details quite as much. That shape and overall aesthetic, but with top notch fit and finishes, better pickups and preamp, etc. The EHB I played at a store was a very cool "middle budget" instrument. I'm just in the market for a long term keeper bass of this type, not one I'll want to upgrade all the time. The Kiesels look awesome, but I keep hearing mixed reviews on the pickups, and I honestly haven't heard a sound clip that's dissuaded my worries about their tonal capabilities.
 
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logdrum said:
If you want to be pedantic, I think only Dingwall is using the Novax fan fret system formula, that is why it is more angled. It was just not arbitrary fanned which I feel is what Ibanez and Kiesel have doen Fanned-Fret® Concept: Novax Guitars: Fanned-Fret®, Multi-Scale Guitars, Basses, Custom-Built Not sure if the patent or licensing expired. did try those Kiesels at the factory showroom. They play nice. A Dingwall feels different
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Could you elaborate a bit more on how they are different ? The page does not provide any details regarding what makes the "Novax system" distinct from a simple fanned-fret based build (except for a multi-pieces bridge, which most builders use anyways)
 
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Would I call a design that was invented 40 years ago and popularized 30 years ago "ultra modern"? Probably not :D but I'll go with it. I like the idea of fanned frets, there's perfectly good logic behind them, but I can't play one to save my life.
 
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JimmyM said:
Would I call a design that was invented 40 years ago and popularized 30 years ago "ultra modern"? Probably not :D but I'll go with it.
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In a world where most of us are still playing 70 year old design instruments... :whistle::D Fanned frets are more common nowadays than ever, but are still seen as UFOs by most. But I get you. However it is going to be hard to create something completely new, without straying too far from what makes a bass guitar a bass guitar... :hyper: Maybe something related to the pickups or the electronics (programmable presets, universal pickup ?)
 
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XLunacy said:
In a world where most of us are still playing 70 year old design instruments... :whistle::D Fanned frets are more common nowadays than ever, but are still seen as UFOs by most. But I get you. However it is going to be hard to create something completely new, without straying too far from what makes a bass guitar a bass guitar... :hyper: Maybe something related to the pickups or the electronics (programmable presets, universal pickup ?)
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About the only frontier left, although Line 6 did make a valiant effort at it years ago and kind of were successful and kind of bombed. But with the technology improving and storage space for presets getting cheaper and cheaper, I think it's inevitable at some point.
 
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XLunacy said:
In a world where most of us are still playing 70 year old design instruments... :whistle::D Fanned frets are more common nowadays than ever, but are still seen as UFOs by most. But I get you. However it is going to be hard to create something completely new, without straying too far from what makes a bass guitar a bass guitar... :hyper: Maybe something related to the pickups or the electronics (programmable presets, universal pickup ?)
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You could think of ultra modern like “newly invented”.
I was more thinking of just highly derived and unusual. Also, “modern” has to do with ideas about the current culmination of progress. (And post-modern means something about abandoning the striving for progress).
 
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Doug4321 said:
How do you like the look of these ultra modern basses?

good value Ibanez, spendy Dingwall, or custom for not too much with Kiesel:

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But my real question is, what sort of music would one play on these?
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Well... first off, I do not like any basses with more than 4 strings. Additionally, I rarely like anything "modern" (I'll be 57 in August) and kind of a traditionalist. So... I despise all the basses in your post. That's an old fart's opinion :roflmao:
 
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