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Unusual Rock Trivia?

I was once at the QVC studios in Secaucus. One of the rooms had Manilow’s band rehearsing. They were tight tight tight. Unbelievably so.

Absolutely!
It is because of Ron Pedley and his pals that eventually became the jazz-rock band Uncle festive. Ron is a genius (as well as a really nice fellow) and has lent his keyboard and arrangement skills to a number of big acts. They backed up Manilow for years but when Barry was off the road they played their own unique brand of killer music. They were one of the early groups exploring live, direct-to digital recording.

I first heard them on KKGO (out of LA) when I worked in a Tucson market (they had an early form of cable FM). Killer tunes. They even played in Tucson one time at a small jazz venue. We were able to hang with the band that night. Nice guys.

When Barry was on Carson we’d tune in just so we could see the band.

Ron:
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Uncle Festive:
Uncle Festive Albums and Discography | AllMusic

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The woman depicting a waitress on the cover of the Supertramp album Breakfast In America was actress/singer/comedian Kate Murtagh who had a long career in a vocal group with her sisters as well has many movie, stage, and TV acting roles.

Murtagh is pictured on the front and back covers of Breakfast In America. On the front cover, she is depicted as a waitress named "Libby", in front of a depiction of New York City, striking a pose similar to that of the Statue Of Liberty, but holding a tall glass of orange juice and a menu rather than a torch and tabula ansata.

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The woman depicting a waitress on the cover of the Supertramp album Breakfast In America was actress/singer/comedian Kate Murtagh who had a long career in a vocal group with her sisters as well has many movie, stage, and TV acting roles.

Murtagh is pictured on the front and back covers of Breakfast In America. On the front cover, she is depicted as a waitress named "Libby", in front of a depiction of New York City, striking a pose similar to that of the Statue Of Liberty, but holding a tall glass of orange juice and a menu rather than a torch and tabula ansata.

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She also appeared in the video for Supertramp single It’s Raining Again, as a woman handing the main character an umbrella.
 
In 1971, Carole King had an unique music chart year. She released her mega hit Tapestry album and the song "It's Too Late" made it to #1 on the U.S. Billboard Pop Music Chart along with the double-sided hit "I Feel the Earth Move". A few months later, Donny Osmond reached #1 on the U.S. Billboard Pop Music Chart with his cover of "Go Away Little Girl", which was co-written by Carole King. As a side note, Steve Lawrence also had a #1 hit with "Go Away Little Girl" in January 1963.
 
In 1971, Carole King had an unique music chart year. She released her mega hit Tapestry album and the song "It's Too Late" made it to #1 on the U.S. Billboard Pop Music Chart along with the double-sided hit "I Feel the Earth Move". A few months later, Donny Osmond reached #1 on the U.S. Billboard Pop Music Chart with his cover of "Go Away Little Girl", which was co-written by Carole King. As a side note, Steve Lawrence also had a #1 hit with "Go Away Little Girl" in January 1963.

I also need to add that James Taylor's cover of the Carole King song "You've Got A Friend" was a #1 U.S. Billboard Pop Music Chart in the summer of 1971.
 
She released her mega hit Tapestry album

And speaking of Tapestry, it includes the song "Smackwater Jack," a song about a guy who shoots up a church congregation during services and then is hunted down and hanged by a mob led by the local sheriff. Written by King and Goffin, who also wrote the infamous "He Hit Me (It Felt Like a Kiss)." Not sure any songwriter could get away with either of those today. King wrote a lot of great songs, but she had a few dogs in there too.
 
The Who's Pete Townshend turns 76 years old today. Townshend says he did not have many friends growing up, so he spent much of his boyhood reading adventure novels like Gullivers Travels and Treasure Island. He then saw the film "Rock Around the Clock," which sparked his fascination with American rock and roll. Not long thereafter, he went to see Bill Haley perform in London, Townshend's first concert. At the time, he did not see himself pursuing a career as a professional musician; instead, he wanted to become a journalist. He ultimately chose to study graphic design at Ealing Art College, enrolling in 1961. At Ealing, Townshend studied alongside future Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood and future Queen lead singer Freddie Mercury. Pete dropped out in 1964 to focus on music full-time. It was a good choice.

In the late 1980s, Pete Townshend worked for publishers Faber and Faber. This is well attested, but a friend of mine was his contact at a printing firm that Faber and Faber contracted with, and so had many conversations with Townshend, all strictly about publishing and printing!
 
As far as I understand it, the band The Seahorses, formed by John Squire of The Stone Roses, was named after The Seahorse Hotel in York where Squire met Chris Helme and the band was born, with the rest of the band being local York musicians. Amazingly, the Yorkshiremen let a Lancastrian be in the band, showing that the politics of the 15th century had finally been put to one side.
 
When Ranking Roger and Dave Wakeling decided to leave The (English) Beat, they did so by posting a resignation letter themselves through the front door of their record company. Later that day they changed their mind, and tried to retrieve the letter, including using a stick with sticky tape attached to it. Having spent some time trying to do this and having failed, they gave up and let fate take its course. Despite both having been the people that left The Beat, they actually forged their later careers as leaders of their own versions (one in the USA, one in the UK) of the band they left.
 
I guess The Police could not think of any other words to sing at the end of "Message In A Bottle". They sang "Sending out an S.O.S" 25 times for over a minute as the song faded out.



Repetition. The secret sauce of Pop.
Repetition. The secret sauce of Pop.
Repetition. The secret sauce of Pop.

You mean like when Taylor Swift sang "Shake it off" 44 times during the song? :woot:

I think this has ‘em beat with at least 80 downs….
 
The issue of repetition is a real one. But it is a very subjective one…all of us have songs we like that have lots of repetition as well as disliking some songs because of the repetition. I often wonder exactly why that is.

It is easy to point to the songs that annoy us. “Dust in the Wind” is one for me. I find it beyond annoying. But yet there are some tunes I like that have a fair bit of repeated lyrics. And yes, Springsteen annoys me with the Born in the USA ad infinitum horror.

Perhaps it is the combination of overly simplistic music AND repetitive lyrics? The Kansas tune seems to fit that hypothesis.

Some of my favorite tunes have very few lyrics, and yes, some have a lot of repetition. Yet they work for me.

Is it only “bad” vocalists that trigger our annoyance? Is it an issue caused by the composer or the listener? Is it a random thing? Or is there something much more subtle going on?

I see it with purely instrumental music too though. For instance, the last track on the Chris Squire solo album “Fish Out of Water” has a long sequence in the second half that has a slowly building climax that has the same motif repeated but each time by a different (orchestral) instrument. I find it absolutely fascinating and stirring. It does not feel repetitive to me, yet others sometimes lambast it for the very same thing. This use of changing timbre on top of a repeated motif to fully explore and develop a theme is a very respected technique that many classical composers have used over the centuries (hello Ludwig Van).

Is there something going on that many of us miss, or is it simply that one man’s torture is another man’s bliss?
 
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The issue of repetition is a real one. But it is a very subjective one…all of us have songs we like that have lots of repetition as well as disliking some songs because of the repetition. I often wonder exactly why that is.

It is easy to point to the songs that annoy us. “Dust in the Wind” is one for me. I find it beyond annoying. But yet there are some tunes I like that have a fair bit of repeated lyrics. And yes, Springsteen annoys me with the Born in the USA ad infinitum horror.

Perhaps it is the combination of overly simplistic music AND repetitive lyrics? The Kansas tune seems to fit that hypothesis.

Some of my favorite tunes have very few lyrics, and yes, some have a lot of repetition. Yet they work for me.

Is it only “bad” vocalists that trigger our annoyance? Is it an issue caused by the composer or the listener? Is it a random thing? Or is there something much more subtle going on?

I see it with purely instrumental music too though. For instance, the last track on the Chris Squire solo album “Fish Out of Water” has a long sequence in the second half that has a slowly building climax that has the same motif repeated but each time by a different (orchestral) instrument. I find it absolutely fascinating and stirring. It does not feel repetitive to me, yet others sometimes lambast it for the very same thing. This use of changing timbre on top of a repeated motif to fully explore and develop a theme is a very respected technique that many classical composers have used over the centuries (hello Ludwig Van).

Is there something going on that many of us miss, or is it simply that one man’s torture is another man’s bliss?
I think the repetition is a fancier way of ad libbing
 
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