no you're right I just worded my message poorly . i couldn't think of the proper term to use to describe the earlier but similar model ... precursor model ?
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Update to the G2220 saga
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no you're right I just worded my message poorly . i couldn't think of the proper term to use to describe the earlier but similar model ... precursor model ?
Company’s reply : Yes indeed, we will rename this model to ‘Hummingbird Bass’ (subject to copyright issues).
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Nope. The single pickup version of this bass had one humbucker in it. Nobody has ever found a two pickup version with humbuckers to date.
...Which is interesting to me, because when I first heard about the G2220 several years ago, it was mentioned by some Gretsch fans here on TB that the G2202, even though only a single-pickup model, had a better humbucker than the two mini-humbuckers in the G2220. Now we know they were right, and why.
Exactly. Imagine if Fender had marketed a particular Jazz Bass model as having been been entirely made in the U.S. for ten years and then was forced to admit that it was being built in China all along.
No biggie.
In fact, that would be even more of a non-issue, because, unlike the Gretsch Junior Jet, there would be no question of any functional difference such as single-coils versus humbuckers.
Fender is now using mdf bodies, but says it's alder and maple. Why not? Nobody cares.
The Fender Jazz Bass has two single coil pickups, right, but one is RWRP, meaning they are humbucking at equal volume.
Equal volume isn't necessarily equal position on the knobs, but even if a bit off, it'll make hum largely inaudible. Not that I can recall the last time I had an issue with him on a soloed Jazz pickup in the UK.
This; plus, they would've consistently made the same mistake.
[...Well, either that, or maybe the mistake is upstream, with one fella who does speak English preparing both "neck" and "bridge" stickers, and another who doesn't, and only fishes from the "bridge" basket. If so, there must be neck pickups mislabelled as bridge ones, randomly put in either position (in the interest of science - we were hunting for concentric humbuckers until a couple of days ago, might as well do this - every owner should check the DC resistance of both their buckhummers). Either way, these hypotethical, secret neckers don't appear to be RWRP with respect to the true bridgers. Maybe, back at the pickup factory, the instructions on how to reverse-wind and polarity-flip were in English...]
Someone who doesn't know about basses and doesn't read English might think that the right option is two pickups with matching squiggles. If someone asked me to do car maintenance with items labelled in Chinese much greater hilarity would ensure than the issue with these basses.
I doubt we'll ever know what the cause was unless someone here knows an employee at the OEM.
1) They're not 'squiggles' to them: the Chinese learn the Latin alphabet before their own writing system, in primary school;
2) disagree, and I've said my piece in my subsequent post - not going to repeat myself.
If the word was Chinese, but written in the Latin alphabet, I wouldn't know 'bridge' from 'neck'. I might be able to point to the letters and even have a stab at pronounciation, but there would be no level of understanding.
I'd agree that it's much more likely a sourcing issue, if basses have been having just bridge pickups of the wrong type installed for a period of time. You'd need to sample across and along the production of the basses in time to see if they all have bridge pickups or some level of mix. I wouldn't assume that people cannot be confused by foreign language during assembly, though, as I am sure people can find examples of where it has been as issue. Heck, with poor translation it can be hard to assemble some things which are technically in my native language, even given diagrams. You would hope in a factory, though, there is some level of instruction given for each product.
Can you imagine people losing their minds over the original EMG Strat "humbuckers" which were loaded into single-coil shaped-housings? "I was told these were single-coils, not hum-canceling single-coils!"
Gimme my hum back!
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