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Double Bass Upton Bass

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to me upton and the american standards satisfy the requirements of two seperate markets, so why can't they both coexist?

Of course they can coexist. Who is saying that they can't? I only brought them up because it's been suggested that I was shilling for NS; my point was that I don't think I'm a shill for loving my bass, and therefore i don't assume that folks who loves their own basses and post about it are shills for whoever made their basses. Am I missing something? Clearly, it's getting to be bedtime for my drooping eyelids.
 
Whoops!

A LOT of UPTON BASS that were here a few hours ago are not here anymore. Tinfoil hats??

Chris?
Mr. Smith?
Sam?
Gary?
DRURB?

C'mon, face the music and dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ugh.

In the "link you posted" - namely http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375561 - two posts were deleted by the original posters: one by FUNGUSAMONGUS, and one by KEVIN HSEIRGHHHIAH. (With my moderatorial superpowers, I can see deleted posts along with who deleted them and why)

In this thread, I deleted three posts: two my Mr. Smith, and one by Sam. I copied their contents to PM and forwarded the results to the two parties concerned. I did this because the communication was between the two of them, because two of the posts were in violation of the CUP, and because it was an argument in an open forum that had no business in this thread. You yourself commented on this with your "church and state" comment. If Paul were here, he would have done the same thing. I have deleted nothing else. No tinfoil hats needed here. Max Pfennig is, in fact, a fictional character and nothing more. And now, I am going to turn off the ******* computer and get some winks.

Please, folks, make an honest effort to dislodge the wedgies and take a deep breath. By morning, with the help of a fresh pair of drawers and a cup of coffee, hopefully everything won't look quite so sinister.

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Good night, Irene...
 
Was this the post to which KS was referring? It certainly is still there. I made that post because I found it amusing that in a very short interval across two threads, others were predicting what would be collectibles. I did not compare the two basses along any dimensions. I don't believe I ever have, save for their difference in price. Perhaps this is not the post that set off KS.

I appreciate Chris's post about leveling accusations regarding someone being a shill. Rather than hiding behind the bushes, KS should take his own advice and "face the music." That is, instead of posting hints and innuendos, he should have the ***** to directly say what he means and exactly who it is that he thinks is shilling for Upton.

It seems to me that, other than KS's cynicism and cloaked accusations, this thread about Upton Bass has been a rather healthy exchange.
 
Upton's shill dissed a community of Atlanta bassits who A-B'd basses.

No, I took issue with the fact that one of the posts referred to the pro-Upton opinions as "jokes." It was that "community" that was "dissed." It was I who pointed out that these comparisons were matters of opinions and that no one's opinion should be summarily dismissed.

So, let's have it KS. Twice after Chris's warning, you implied I am a shill (without having the ***** to say it explicitly). As Chris said, "If you're going to call someone a 'shill' in the public forums, be prepared to back it up with some facts." Time to put up or shut up, KS.
 
I think we need another forum for this sort of thing.

Maybe we could call it "A place for commercial partisans, carpers and kibbitzers to vent their spleen separately from other bass players, so as not to bore and offend people who could not care less about the dull spleen of these kvetchers and accusers, and who are concerned that the TB DB forums are devolving into a place for the constant exhibition of such boring crap."

Or maybe that title's too long.
 
I think we need another forum for this sort of thing.

Maybe we could call it "A place for commercial partisans, carpers and kibbitzers to vent their spleen separately from other bass players, so as not to bore and offend people who could not care less about the dull spleen of these kvetchers and accusers, and who are concerned that the TB DB forums are devolving into a place for the constant exhibition of such boring crap."

Or maybe that title's too long.

Funny Damon. I stayed out of this thread until, even after Chris's warning, I was repeatedly accused of shilling. I'd be happy for you to clamp down on such nonsense so that I would not be compelled to reply. As I said earler, I thought this thread was a healthy exchange aside from KS's spewing of venom.
 
One thread was started by someone excited because they received an emailfrom your shop; that one went multiple pages too. An email!... If I was bass-shopping today, I would definitely consider an Upton, especially since they are now made in the U.S.

I'm not sure if it was my thread that is being referred to:http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374875
but if it is ya got me feeling defensive. So I'd just like to clarify that I posted that thread for two reasons, first to pass along information---the fact of my Upton Bass being made in the USA-- to this forum that I thought was newsworthy and second as a vehicle to introduce myself to others on this forum.

Sounds like you agree that it is a newsworthy topic so that takes care of reason one. And as far as my second reason goes, my "Hi I'm new here" thread received a grand total of 2 replies (thank you Nohandles and Silversorcerer) before fading into oblivion, it seems a new member here needs a bit of a splash to get attention.

That's all I got. I joined this forum and paid my dues out of gratitude for the expertise from which I benefited. I'm a little disappointed that my thread was used as some sort of circumstantial evidence to support a political issue.
 
I mentioned your thread only as an example of the overwhelmingly positive publicity that Upton Bass enjoys here on TalkBass DB. There's nothing "political" about my motives, and I didn't mean to imply you were wrong in starting the thread (or that it should have been addressed by a moderator).

I apologize for my part in not helping make you feel welcome here at TB. It's a popular site, and people come and go all the time. Sometimes we (at least, I) don't try hard enough to welcome new folks. I'm glad you're here. When you get your Upton, please be sure to let us know how it works out for you.
 
I mentioned your thread only as an example of the overwhelmingly positive publicity that Upton Bass enjoys here on TalkBass DB. There's nothing "political" about my motives, and I didn't mean to imply you were wrong in starting the thread (or that it should have been addressed by a moderator).

I apologize for my part in not helping make you feel welcome here at TB. It's a popular site, and people come and go all the time. Sometimes we (at least, I) don't try hard enough to welcome new folks. I'm glad you're here. When you get your Upton, please be sure to let us know how it works out for you.


Thank you for this clarification. In such a contentious thread, it is indeed a breath of fresh air. Hopefully your gesture will inspire others to take a step back and allow that we can't ever really know the motives of others posting on TB. Thanks again. :)
 
I have seldom heard a more handsome apology.
Gufenov, I accept wholeheartedly.

Furthermore, I hereby vow that, the good Lord willing, I will submit to this forum an excruciatingly honest appraisal of my bass when I receive it and have lived with it for an appropriate length of time.

Sincerely,
Paul Ignatowski
Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan
 
I have seldom heard a more handsome apology.
Gufenov, I accept wholeheartedly.

Furthermore, I hereby vow that, the good Lord willing, I will submit to this forum an excruciatingly honest appraisal of my bass when I receive it and have lived with it for an appropriate length of time.

Sincerely,
Paul Ignatowski
Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan


Amen to all of the above. Welcome aboard!
 
Hey FB, we've talked but I never welcomed you. I think I joined at about the same time as you after a long period of lurking, so I left it to the longtimers. We are fellow sufferers in the Upton Hawkes wait support group, which as I think everyone knows by now has kept its members suffering longer than it usually does. Mine ships on the 20th! I think Art's is in transit. This is his 4th Upton but he's as excited as we are. His is going to be the first "Tiger Top" Hawkes and maybe the first US made Upton period. Let's stay in touch, OK friend? Peace-Out
 
I feel that I lost track of the point of all of this, so I reviewed the whole thread back to the beginning:

I've been drooling over the Upton Bass site-- in search of my first new upright in 15 years (just a poor hack). What is the general opinion of 1) their own basses (hybrid especially), and 2) their value and service in general. Thanks.

Chris

To share my experience to date and answer your inquiry more succinctly:

1) My opinion of their basses (as an owner) is that it something that is most useful when amplified and plucked. In other words, my bass really doesn't speak clearly/loudly enough for orchestral work, but is fine with a pickup/amp. The 42" string length makes my bass just a tad stiffer under the stick than other basses that are out there, but provides a nice punch with pizz. IMHO, Upton's products seem largely targeted toward a clientèle that is augmenting their sound with amplification.

I notice that their clients and staff seem weighted toward the pizz scenes...jazz, rockabilly, etc. I haven't yet heard about a lot of people playing their basses in orchestras or solo arco recitals. Perhaps I just haven't been at TB long enough...I am a newbie here. Educate me, folks! :-)

2) My opinion/experience of their service is that they try hard. Overall, the value I have received is reasonable, per dollar.

This is clearly not a firm that suffers from false modesty or shyness. Marketing can happen lots of ways...they fearlessly use many traditional methods.

They are not marketing their basses by providing stunningly well made basses at unrealistically low prices, if that is what someone wants/expects.

My question for CMoon1 should perhaps be, "For what are you planning to use this bass?"
 
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