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Double Bass Velvet Garbos double bass strings megathread part I

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On a Shen 7/8 willow flatback. Replacing Spirocores, which have all the strengths and weaknesses everyone knows. The Spiros have plenty of treble and growl, but they're kind of cold and thinnish sounding--loud, but not bassy. I wanted something with a softer sound. I think most people here know what I mean

The animas: can I just say Velvet has way cool packaging? I mean, the whole M.C. Escher/Fin de siecle vibe is too cool. Big corrugated portfolio style deal, instructions in multiple languages, I imagine brotha bass players all over the world... I feel so classy and ...European. And then the way you attach them--cute. The little strings, you wind 'em around themselves at the pegbox and through the little loop at the tailpiece--schweet. A pain in the neck, but schweet. Ok, enough being seduced by expensive packaging

Bigger in diameter than the spiros, but not huge. I was a little worried about length, but in fact the unwrapped part of "E" string winds up on the peg. Stretchy--good thing I don't have a gig coming up right away. Copper color-nice. Already my fingers are being stained black a little bit, and they have a kind of coppery smell. Low tension--feels good but odd. Not unlike the Eurosonics I had on my old bass--a little rolly under the fingers, but not too much. A very soft feel, much more, for want of a better word, "organic" feeling, much more so than the Eurosonics. It's fun to pluck--it feels good. It's taking some getting used to--been about two hours with it now and I'm liking the feel more and more, but I'm having to play the bass very differently. I'll probably need to raise the action a bit, but I'm letting it settle in first.

The tone--big and warm, less defined that the Spiros, but I like it a lot--a lot. It's fatter but still pretty articulate. It's a little "cloudy" or something, a little blurry compared to the spiros. Arco is both better and worse--nicer tone, much less scratchy and warmer, but harder to bow because they're less stiff. But it's a really nice sound, even though there's some "new string" overtones to it.

So far I like them a lot--I'll report back over the next week or two
 
They take a pretty good time to settle, 3 weeks or so. After you get a little more use dto them, try taking your string height up a little. It'll add a little more "resistance" to the bow, but they are still much lower tension than almost everything else I've played.
 
Tell me PB+J, you said they were a wee bit thicker, how did they fit the nut? Is there really any set-up adjustments to make for gut. I've heard people say all kinds of stuff about soundposts, nuts, etc...I've got Oblis on now. Like the string, but once in my life I'd like to try real gut. (other than the one I got from holiday food) :)

gomez
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if it ain't broke, don't fix it
 
These aren't gut--they're some kind of natural fiber core with a copper wrap. I haven't changed a thing yet--the nut seems fine, but probably could use a slight adjustment, maybe a small widening of each slot? I'm going to play it for a while before doing anything, maybe raise the action a little

To be honest, I've never really tried gut strings--I can't compare. So far I'm extremely happy with the animas though
 
My suisse is a little rusty, but I think they are copper wrapped around weed. One reason they are so expensive. :-)

I haven't tried these, but they sound great on other basses I've seen.

Actually, I think I remember reading that they were silk.

-tk
 
so, OK, Animas are not gut, but Garbos are, right?

Funny thing, Velvet calling them "Animas" if they're vegetarian.

This whole string thing was a lot easier in my EB days.

Boy, you know for "natural fiber" string, they sure are expensive.

gomez
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four strings, four fingers...now is that evolution or what?
 
Adrian Juras said:
The Compas 360's bow a bit better than the Animas. Give them 3 weeks before they start to really sound their best.

How big of a bit better? I'd really like to go the Velvet route, but experimenting too much with bass strings is too expensive, ESPECIALLY with Velvet's.

Do all Velvet's need 3 weeks or just the Anima's?

Thanks.
 
I bought the Compas because they have a shorter break in period and I have spent the last little while in the studio. They are very similar to Animas. I am guessing that they won't have as long a life as the Animas though. They are more similar to Obligatos.
 
an·i·ma
n.
The inner self of an individual; the soul.
In Jungian psychology:
The unconscious or true inner self of an individual, as opposed to the persona, or outer aspect of the personality.
The feminine inner personality, as present in the unconscious of the male. It is in contrast to the animus, which represents masculine characteristics.
 
Ed Fuqua said:
The feminine inner personality, as present in the unconscious of the male. It is in contrast to the animus, which represents masculine characteristics.

Boy these people at Velvet sure do get metaphysical and all. I was trying to make a little joke back there and now I find out my feminine side needs new strings! :eek:

gomez
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4 strings, 4 fingers...is that evolution or what?
 
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