Vintage amps just sound better

[Sixgunn]

It's marketing based on perception. Seriously, it's not rocket surgery.

 

[cheapbasslovin]

Do vintage amps and effects all have a bunch of latency and background hiss on certain settings too?

We call that 'mojo.'

 

[chadds]

Nothing like a nice broken in amp or cab. Although there have been a lot of great advancements in amp and cab technology, sometimes the classics are just the way to go...kind of like "if it ain't broke why/don't fix it."

This is more like, "if it's broke, why fix it?"

 

[Deleted member 165050]

I'm afraid modelling units degrade with time, due to internal code erosion.

 

[micguy]

Just got an Aftershock (the 201x version of a Pod). Based on what the first Boss digital things sounded like, what the Pod sounded like, and what the Aftershock does, things are definitely getting better.

 

[St_G]

As the code wears away, it allows the bits to breathe more, which gives you a more open tone.

I'm afraid modelling units degrade with time, due to internal code erosion.

 

[zoonose]

I have some NOS bits if anyone needs them. Can send via email.

 

[MattZilla]

As the code wears away, it allows the bits to breathe more, which gives you a more open tone.

as a vintage digital noob, should I expect this to result in a more crunchy, dry tone, or one that is clear and liquidey?

 

[Fishheadjoe]

as a vintage digital noob, should I expect this to result in a more crunchy, dry tone, or one that is clear and liquidey?

I'd expect it to go off and on.
Fishheadjoe

 

[dbsfgyd1]

And top google result says "vintage" is anything 20+ years old. Sooo......looks like this bad boy is SIXTEEN VINTAGE AMPS now! Or, like 14 vintage amps, a vintage tube preamp and a vintage fuzz box.

Ooh, but some of those models were themselves based on vintage amps. So now that the models are vintage, it's...DOUBLE VINTAGE. That's gotta be like +4 Tone, at least.

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I work with a guitarist that has been playing through one of these since they first hit the market. IMO, the new modeling effebct units on the market today are far superior.

 

[St_G]

Last year, sure. But now they're vintage, so they're better than the new ones.

That's just science.

I work with a guitarist that has been playing through one of these since they first hit the market. IMO, the new modeling effebct units on the market today are far superior.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Last year, sure. But now they're vintage, so they're better than the new ones.

That's just science.

That makes zero sense... but then again, I usually don't....

 

[St_G]

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That makes zero sense... .

 

[dbsfgyd1]

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Maybe I should have stayed on the Senility thread, but I forgot where it was....

 

[chadds]

as a vintage digital noob, should I expect this to result in a more crunchy, dry tone, or one that is clear and liquidey?

"Fits in the mix plays like buttah."

 

[beans-on-toast]

I have one of those Pods 2.0's. The last update was released in 2017. A software updatable piece of gear can't be vintage can it?

But I'd take a real Hammond over a software updatable synth that emulates one. I sometimes run my bass through a Hammond pre into a Leslie.

 

[Kirk Bryant]

My techs are serious Hammond junkies who routinely do things to Hammonds and Leslie's they were never intended to do. Like chopping them down to 100 lbs fully functioning and chopping Leslie's in half for easier transport.
Recently I was hanging out and they plugged me into two 147 Leslie's. Wow that was cool and surprisingly loud for two 40 watt amps.
Now I've got to pull my Pod out of storage and check it out again.

Edit, they cut a Hammond and Leslie enough for there're keyboardist to transport himself and fit in his PRIUS!!!!

 

[beans-on-toast]

My techs are serious Hammond junkies who routinely do things to Hammonds and Leslie's they were never intended to do. Like chopping them down to 100 lbs fully functioning and chopping Leslie's in half for easier transport.
Recently I was hanging out and they plugged me into two 147 Leslie's. Wow that was cool and surprisingly loud for two 40 watt amps.
Now I've got to pull my Pod out of storage and check it out again.

John Paul Jones used a Leslie to good effect on Heartbreaker.

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Why chop a Hammond when you can have someone else pay for cartage.

 

[SwitchGear]

I played through a kidney maybe ten years ago. It hissed a lot. I recall turning the dial trying to find a reasonable tone. Gave up on the pos rather quickly. Lol

 

[Deleted member 165050]

I'd expect it to go off and on.
Fishheadjoe

Haha very good. Of course once we have quantum processors in modelling that will no longer be the case.