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Wait what? That's a Fender Squire??

Guys, how about everybody stop arguing the relative merits of Squiers and Fenders and join me in asking the OP to clarify what exactly the "Fender Modified" line of basses is that the Fender rep referred to and to maybe post a photo of the headstock, because I still don't understand the first post.
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Not being snarky, but it's a Squier Vintage Modified by Fender. Maybe my description was wrong in the original post. I posted a pic earlier in the thread.
 
Ha, good question. He said.

Which from the sound of it was the Squier VM Jazz 70s, if we assume that "blonde" means oly white rather the yellow tone it normally means (or maybe natural). Meets the description of the black blocks on the neck and the "Fender-designed" pickups. I assume he picked up terms orally and thus got a little muddled ("Fender modified" rather than "Vintage Modified," etc.).

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The only question that leaves is the $500. If he's in the US, the dealer hosed him good because that's a $299 bass. But maybe it was Australian dollars or something, his profile page doesn't indicate location.

You are correct, thank you for not being snarky with my lack of proper Fender vinacular. Is almost everyone on this forum always elitists or is there room for a less than knowledgeable dude that rarely signs on here but knows the tone he likes and what he feels when he plays it.

Anyway, it is the natural tone. And yes I know, I got hosed. I'm taking it back tomorrow to have a discussion with the owner.
 
Just be ready to return it outright as the retail price of a Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz Bass is $499 so you just happened to buy it when it wasn't on sale. Hopefully he'll do some type of price match and refund the difference versus taking it back.

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Whats's odd though, is on Squier's direct website you can buy one right now with now sale prices at $299.

I'm going to return it and tell him if he does the right thing I'm going to have him order me a 4 string in red and a 5 string in the natural.
 
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You are correct, thank you for not being snarky with my lack of proper Fender vinacular. Is almost everyone on this forum always elitists or is there room for a less than knowledgeable dude that rarely signs on here but knows the tone he likes and what he feels when he plays it.

Anyway, it is the natural tone. And yes I know, I got hosed. I'm taking it back tomorrow to have a discussion with the owner.

There is plenty of room for a guy that knows good tones because at the end of the day this is art and you can't be wrong when your expressing yourself. Enjoy your bass take it back if the money bothers you but it sounds like you got one you really like so maybe hold on to it if you can.
P.S don't worry about the elitists talkbass is like life the are a**holes everywhere but most of the people on here are very welcoming and have alot of valuable advice even if you don't agree with them all the time.
 
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And as for the whole squire/squier deal why fender had to spell it wrong in the first place annoys me

Here's the story: (courtesy of our friends at strat-talk)
The truth about the name is that in 1965, Fender bought the V.C. Squier String Company and began to make Fender strings in-house. The name was discarded until CBS sold Fender to Bill Schultz and the Fender employees in 1981. At that time, Fender was forced to rely on subcontractors in Japan and Korea to supply new instruments while the company reorganized and built the Corona factory. Once American production resumed, Fender decided to keep selling low-priced import guitars to stem the tide of Strat and Tele copies flooding into the U.S. To differentiate the imports from American-made Fenders, the Squier name was revived in 1982, first as a small "Squier Series" decal beside the Fender logo, and later as a full-fledged brand name.
 
Here's the story: (courtesy of our friends at strat-talk)
The truth about the name is that in 1965, Fender bought the V.C. Squier String Company and began to make Fender strings in-house. The name was discarded until CBS sold Fender to Bill Schultz and the Fender employees in 1981. At that time, Fender was forced to rely on subcontractors in Japan and Korea to supply new instruments while the company reorganized and built the Corona factory. Once American production resumed, Fender decided to keep selling low-priced import guitars to stem the tide of Strat and Tele copies flooding into the U.S. To differentiate the imports from American-made Fenders, the Squier name was revived in 1982, first as a small "Squier Series" decal beside the Fender logo, and later as a full-fledged brand name.
very informative thanks for that! I always wondered why that was and it makes a lot of sense now
 
My main bass is a Fender MIA P, but I recently bought a Squier Matt Freeman. It plays as well as the MIA and actually sounds better IMO. The tuners and other hardware aren't as good as MIA, but not bad. It is a great bass and will get plenty of gig time. Better than the MIM Fender I used to have.
 
Coolness.

I will say this: the stock pots in the VM leave a bit to be desired. Mini Alpha pots. They do work, but the tapers are pretty non-existent. I swapped mine out for full-size ones, all audio taper, and not only are the tapers smoother (still not perfect), but I get a bit more discernable top-end out of the neck pup. Also, wanted to have the more standard-looking plastic turn knobs (kept the brass ones for my project P-bass).

Aside from that, not going to change anything on the bass. I was contemplating taking out the 'Jazz Bass' lettering and replacing it with the late 60s Jazz Bass lettering (because it looks so cool), but nah. Why mess with it now? I was thinking of getting some pre-CBS style tuners, but the stock ones are perfectly fine. They're pretty much the same as on the standard MiMs and from what I can see the American Special, and even the Sire basses.

Sorry for being an idiot but what do you mean by tapers? Just curious if I should indeed change the pots.
 
Just a note about the VM inlays. On both my VM Jazz V and my VM 77 neck, the inlays are real inlays, and the binding are real bindings, not painted on. Not sure if this is just on the newer ones (or when they changed to real inlays if they used to be painted)

This is true of the only Squier that I own as well, a VM Squier VI. It is a really nicely made instrument in pretty much every respect. I have done some work on it but only things that routinely need to be done on the MIA originals as well. And I am in the process of adding parts to give me a couple of features that were left off to hit the price point. This example of a VM Squier is quite impressive.

Here's the story: (courtesy of our friends at strat-talk)
The truth about the name is that in 1965, Fender bought the V.C. Squier String Company and began to make Fender strings in-house. The name was discarded until CBS sold Fender to Bill Schultz and the Fender employees in 1981. At that time, Fender was forced to rely on subcontractors in Japan and Korea to supply new instruments while the company reorganized and built the Corona factory. Once American production resumed, Fender decided to keep selling low-priced import guitars to stem the tide of Strat and Tele copies flooding into the U.S. To differentiate the imports from American-made Fenders, the Squier name was revived in 1982, first as a small "Squier Series" decal beside the Fender logo, and later as a full-fledged brand name.

Pretty every time someone misspells the Squier name as Squire you will see someone posting a picture of a knight in training along with some kind of comment about how a bass is not like a knight. But don't be fooled. Back when squire was an occupation English spelling was not standardized and in fact English was not the language of choice for squires and knights, thanks to that fracas in 1066. So while Squier is the correct spelling of the guitar brand name and people are correct to point that out, Squier is an occupation based family name and the occupation in question is what we commonly spell squire today. Squiers were in fact squires. So if someone posts a picture of a bass and a squire and asks which one is Squier, the correct answer is that they both are!
 
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Guys and Gals, I'm very curious if anyone has recently played the newest Squier Fender Jazz? I know I said Squier, but stay with me here.

I'm a 20 year plus bassist and always considered Squier an entry level bass that is far below my dignity, however......I was in a music store last night and played every American Fender Jazz he had on the wall (3-4) and then just so happened to decide to grab a blonde Squier jazz with a maple fret board and those beautiful rectangular fret markers as you would see on a Marcus Miller. I could not believe the tone and feel. It completely blew me away. Now mind you I have 3 other basses of quality so I was highly amazed when it was easily out-toning my Ernie Ball Musicman HH and my American Peavey Cirrus.

So get this, I contacted Fender on the spot and asked them what about that bass that sounded so good. The gentleman asked for the serial number and then stated that I was playing one of their new Fender Modified 70's Jazz Squiers. He went on to say that Fender just updated them and are now providing them with a more classic pickup style called "Fender Designed" that is supposed to mimick a '62 with AINiCo magnets.

Anyway I've rambled long enough but I gladly bought that $500 dollar blonde and I'm almost convinced I won't be playing any of my other girls for a while. If you haven't tried one you should!!!!
I bought a 62 squier jazz the year they came out somewhere around 83? One of the best sounding gigs that stand out in my memory were played with that bass through a Canadian "VT" amp with a 2x15. As well I know a professional player who has played nothing but a black squier jazz with emg's for the last 20+ yrs. There is definitly something to them.
 
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Is that why it says "Sale Price" next to the $299? ;)

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To have an inflated MSRP and then for the retailer to brag about their "discount" is a hoary old marketing ploy that nobody falls for anymore... I thought. With more and more direct online sales, it's finally starting to die a well-deserved death and manufacturers are gradually starting to list the actual "street" price rather than a hypothetical MSRP that no one actually pays (I thought...).
 
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To have an inflated MSRP and then for the retailer to brag about their "discount" is a hoary old marketing ploy that nobody falls for anymore... I thought. With more and more direct online sales, it's finally starting to die a well-deserved death and manufacturers are gradually starting to list the actual "street" price rather than a hypothetical MSRP that no one actually pays (I thought...).

I just want to clarify as I get all that. I was trying to understand where a price of $500 could come from for this bass and it dawned on me that it is the amount that all the retailers (at least the ones I've checked online: Guitar Center, Musician's Friend, Sweetwater, Music123, Zzounds, my local Riff City Guitar, etc) list $499 as the actual price of the product with a 40% discount to arrive at their offering price of $299. Each of them list out the same information however only Sweetwater actually calls it a "Sale Price". I don't know where else this proprietor could come up with $500 for this bass and, personally, it would make me suspect of everything in that store. I'm all for buying from my local store but not when it's a price differential that significant. No offense to the OP as the bass he purchased certainly played and sounded like it should be worth that much to him so no disrespect intended.
 
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