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Warrior Club Part 2
- Thread starter Bryan R. Tyler
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Thats not much less than what that bass would have cost new. It is just the standard finish, bolt on 5 string. I think they were $2600-$2800 new 6 years ago or so when it was a current model.
I had one personally and I think I sold it for about $1600 4 yrs ago or so.
I think that's too much for a used Warrior with standard woods and a bolt on neck. I only paid $1,450 for my neck-thru signature with Mac Ebony, Wenge, and purpleheart. That was 10 years ago, however.
I paid a visit to JD at Warrior Guitars yesterday to pick out my woods for my custom warrior Isabella neck thru 6. This bass will be sort of special in the fact that it will be his very first 19mm string spacing build. Just in case you guys don't know it yet, he is now offering that option. I told JD to use the bartolini pre but I'm thinking of going with the mike pope flex core which I heard good things about. Anyone here ever use them in their warrior? Here's some pics of the wood I picked out. I'll be posting build pictures as he gives them to me. I'm excited to get this one! I'll be posting the specs in a little while once all of them are finalized.
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I think the Pope option is too new for anyone here to have experience with them in JD's basses. They seem to work great in Fodera's, but totally different pickups. JD is also offering a Demeter preamp now too. He has a bolt-on 6 with narrow spacing coming soon too.
He's actually used Demeter ones here or there over the years. I remember seeing some Warriors with Demeter preamps back in the late 90's/early 2000s. I've never really spent much time with an on board Demeter preamp. But, any experience I've had with their outboard preamps has been really good. I like them a lot.
Ok, so a few things here...
@Roscoe/Demeter... IMHO (!!) that's only because of those custom wound pickups, which were always too dark for my tastes, and the Bart preamp is not a particularly bright preamp... not dark, but not bright, either. The Demeter is a little brighter/clearer, BUT, the EQ is REALLY mild on it... IMHO it lacked some range for my tastes. I currently have one of the newer Roscoe Century models with the Bart J style pickups, and the same standard Bart NTMB preamp they use in the other models, and it sounds great to me. In other words, I do think the Demeter "helped" in Roscoes with those custom soaps in there, but it was really more of a pickup than a preamp thing, and I'd take the Pope over the Demeter any day. It's got just as much clarity, and a more robust and usable EQ (with more wiring options, too).
@Warrior with the Demeter/Bart/Pope, I've actually played all three preamps in various basses, and IMHO, if you're looking for something with a little bit more clarity than the Bart, yet still a nicely robust EQ, the Pope is the way to go. Demeter is cool, but I think the Pope is better. That said, at least on a Warrior, with either the X5's or the J/MM, I've never really lacked at all for tone with the Bart pre (at least once I removed all the non-standard preamp mods JD does, anyway).
FWIW
@Roscoe/Demeter... IMHO (!!) that's only because of those custom wound pickups, which were always too dark for my tastes, and the Bart preamp is not a particularly bright preamp... not dark, but not bright, either. The Demeter is a little brighter/clearer, BUT, the EQ is REALLY mild on it... IMHO it lacked some range for my tastes. I currently have one of the newer Roscoe Century models with the Bart J style pickups, and the same standard Bart NTMB preamp they use in the other models, and it sounds great to me. In other words, I do think the Demeter "helped" in Roscoes with those custom soaps in there, but it was really more of a pickup than a preamp thing, and I'd take the Pope over the Demeter any day. It's got just as much clarity, and a more robust and usable EQ (with more wiring options, too).
@Warrior with the Demeter/Bart/Pope, I've actually played all three preamps in various basses, and IMHO, if you're looking for something with a little bit more clarity than the Bart, yet still a nicely robust EQ, the Pope is the way to go. Demeter is cool, but I think the Pope is better. That said, at least on a Warrior, with either the X5's or the J/MM, I've never really lacked at all for tone with the Bart pre (at least once I removed all the non-standard preamp mods JD does, anyway).
FWIW
I agree that the Roscoe tone is heavily influenced by those custom quad coil Bartolini's they like to use. I've had 6-7 different pickup/preamp configs in their basses, and the Demeter, regardless of pickup choice, always seemed to sound best. So, IMO, that preamp sounds good not just relative to the Roscoe Bart/Bart setup, but sounds good period. I'm sure it would sound great in a Warrior as well. I also agree, in part, that the Demeter lacks some range, especially in the mids. There were times when I wondered if that mid "Q Switch" was even wired to anything. I thought the top and bottom range was fine.
That said, I'm 100% sure - without even having tried one, that the Pope preamp is fantastic. I would love to try one eventually.
Right... now imagine the Demeter's clarity, but with a more usable EQ. That's the Pope.
That's going to be a nice looking bass Deon! I love the wood choices. IMO Bart p/u's pair very well with the Demeter preamp. Of course I'm one of the ones that still feels that it really opened up the sound of the Roscoe Barts. It's still my favorite Preamp (with Roscoe Bart's or Bart CB's) on a Roscoe. I'd love to hear a Demeter paired with the Bart's in a Warrior.
With that being said I just picked up Jason's new DM 5 (great TB'er to deal with!) and the Bart/Bart combo in this bass is perfect to my ears. Just the right amount of phatness and sizzle. This bass has all kinds of usable sounds IMO. I think that the wenge/PH/wenge neck w/ebony FB paired with the ash body is the perfect wood combo on a Warrior (for me). This bass is much phatter sounding than my previous Warrior 5 (maple/bubinga/wenge/PH w/maple FB). Much thicker sounding tone.
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Very nice. Definitely my fave pickup combo on these guys, and a nice wood combo for my prefs as well. Grats.
^^^ Thanks guys!
Man these Warriors setup so well! I've only played 3 of them but the one thing that they all had in common was an incredible setup. Extremely low action without fret buzz.
I can't wait to hear it in a live mix tomorrow morning!
Man these Warriors setup so well! I've only played 3 of them but the one thing that they all had in common was an incredible setup. Extremely low action without fret buzz.
I can't wait to hear it in a live mix tomorrow morning!
JOME77 said:
Thanks Joe, looking forward to the day I get to play this baby! I'm thinking of putting some Nordstrand dual coils with a Mike Pope flex core pre with all the works in this baby! Here's a few pictures of the neck after being routed. The body wings should be glued to the neck next week. I'll keep the post updated as I get pictures. By the way nice playing the bass sounds great!
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