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Wordpress is pretty user friendly even for non-computer-folks like me.

I built my website(s) and maintain them, but put links about updates on Facebook and such places. Increasingly, my sales are to people who live far away. But many originally saw me on Facebook, browsed my web presence, and eventually called.
 
Somehow despite my inclination to avoid responsibilites, I'm running my band's website. I find it moderately sucky, which is appropriate for a stinky little bar band, which is what we are. I'm in the middle of updating it (it grew cobwebs during 2020-2021s). I use something called SITE123 which I think it meant for web illiterates like me. Anyway, here's one way to do it:
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Complaints, rages against amateur site-builders, etc. are welcome.:D
I just checked out your page. I think it looks great. I like the testimonials page. It's something that i want to add to our band's webpage. I also like how you are showing lots of happy crowd pics. I use Bandzoogle. We had a member quit in January and we replaced him in February so currently the webpage is showing both guys. If you get a minute go look at ours and I too would be happy for any criticism. Link Removed
 
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I just checked out your page. I think it looks great. I like the testimonials page. It's something that i want to add to our band's webpage. I also like how you are showing lots of happy crowd pics. I use Bandzoogle. We had a member quit in January and we replaced him in February so currently the webpage is showing both guys. If you get a minute go look at ours and I too would be happy for any criticism. Link Removed

Nice! Very clean. We get all those images because our fans post them on facebook. None of them are "professional." Funny, we're basically working the same vein, but looking at your setlist we share just a few songs (Brown Eyed Girl forevaaaah!):D
Edit: Also these: Boys Are Back, Josie, Pretzel Logic. Good to have some Steely! Nice job on Josie!
 
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I listened to a couple of podcasts this week (DIY musician podcast and a couple of others interviewing bandzoogle staff) which talked about this. While bandzoogle has a vested interest DIY musician pod does not and they make a strong point that social media constantly changes algorithms to make you pay more for reach, so a band website is one way off that train.
 
i also used bandzoogle to create and host our website. of course we also utilize the social media sites as well, unfortunately that’s where most of our interactions occure. as band trying get some attention, i believe it’s best to use every option that is available to you. IMO the website does make a band appear more professional if it’s done well. bandzoogle is great for that, although with SO MANY customization options there is definitely a learning curve to it. i’ve been messing with our site for over a month and i’m still learning new things every time i change something, but $100 for a year, it’s totally worth it. perception is important.

i say use all the tools available to you if you have the time and passion to do it.

i send everyone to the website and tell them to find our social media links there. whatever apps you use, if we use them, you can find the links on our website Link Removed.
powered by bandzoogle hahaha
 
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I listened to a couple of podcasts this week (DIY musician podcast and a couple of others interviewing bandzoogle staff) which talked about this. While bandzoogle has a vested interest DIY musician pod does not and they make a strong point that social media constantly changes algorithms to make you pay more for reach, so a band website is one way off that train.
The problem with websites is people need to know about them and be motivated to go there. Social media has the advantage because it will put you in front of people without effort required on their part. IMO websites are not always needed, but SM is a necessary evil nowadays.
 
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The problem with websites is people need to know about them and be motivated to go there. Social media has the advantage because it will put you in front of people without effort required on their part. IMO websites are not always needed, but SM is a necessary evil nowadays.
depending on the type of band, i would agree. i think original bands, corporate/wedding bands probably should have them, while bar bands probably don’t.
 
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The problem with websites is people need to know about them and be motivated to go there. Social media has the advantage because it will put you in front of people without effort required on their part. IMO websites are not always needed, but SM is a necessary evil nowadays.

Yeah I think the hope is you can funnell a percentage of fans from SM to your website before the SM platform throttles your reach with the next algorithm update.
 
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If you have a business (aband is a business- you are trying to get people to pay you to perform, and/or selling merchandise), you are crazy not to have a website. Access is greater than with Facebook, and it is more versatile. It doesn't have to be complex.
I host websites for two different bands and can probably count the number of visits to those over the past several years on one hand. The visit numbers, at most, are in the double digits. Unless you have a corresponding advertising campaign of some sort, a website is just a thing that is hanging out in the ether that no one knows about.

Before you spend money and time on a website, it's helpful to think about how it's going to be used, who is going to go there, how they are going to know it's there, and whether your goals can be accomplished well without the effort and expense.

In a lot of cases, your goals are better met by posting crowd-shot videos on a social media page or uploading those to YouTube to be shared as needed. Soundcloud is good if you have audio links to promote.

If nobody is sharing your website address, you will not get any traffic. If you're just handing out cards with your address, you're not going to get any traffic unless your web address is very simple, and even then it's far less likely that people will make the effort type an address into the search bar in order to visit your site. People want to click links, they do not want to fish a card out of their pocket and type in an address. And if you're posting links, why not link directly to your most important content?

I'd agree that if you're doing a corporate-level band with a lot of flash and polish, you absolutely need this, because it's expected beyond a certain pro level. But if you're a local band playing a few shows a month, you can put your videos up on YouTube and Facebook and post links to those in places where your likely audience will immediately see your important content, rather than waiting for them to maybe visit your site and maybe look at your promo stuff.
 
I host websites for two different bands and can probably count the number of visits to those over the past several years on one hand. The visit numbers, at most, are in the double digits. Unless you have a corresponding advertising campaign of some sort, a website is just a thing that is hanging out in the ether that no one knows about.

Before you spend money and time on a website, it's helpful to think about how it's going to be used, who is going to go there, how they are going to know it's there, and whether your goals can be accomplished well without the effort and expense.

In a lot of cases, your goals are better met by posting crowd-shot videos on a social media page or uploading those to YouTube to be shared as needed. Soundcloud is good if you have audio links to promote.

If nobody is sharing your website address, you will not get any traffic. If you're just handing out cards with your address, you're not going to get any traffic unless your web address is very simple, and even then it's far less likely that people will make the effort type an address into the search bar in order to visit your site. People want to click links, they do not want to fish a card out of their pocket and type in an address. And if you're posting links, why not link directly to your most important content?

I'd agree that if you're doing a corporate-level band with a lot of flash and polish, you absolutely need this, because it's expected beyond a certain pro level. But if you're a local band playing a few shows a month, you can put your videos up on YouTube and Facebook and post links to those in places where your likely audience will immediately see your important content, rather than waiting for them to maybe visit your site and maybe look at your promo stuff.

To me, a web site is a public band calendar, digital press package, and easy way to contact the band for any reason. When I speak with a venue owner, I tell them the site will have anything they need to consider booking the band.
 
To me, a web site is a public band calendar, digital press package, and easy way to contact the band for any reason. When I speak with a venue owner, I tell them the site will have anything they need to consider booking the band.
If you're getting people to go there and use the site for its intended purpose, it's all good, as long as you feel the expense is worth it. If they aren't going there, then the value is questionable. The real question is whether or not it gets visited and whether those visits then translate into additional work.
 
Some of the bands around where I am from, which are working steady btw, just have facebook for promotion. It seems to be adequate.
We have facebook and a webpage. Some gigs asked for a webpage others did not.
 
To me, a web site is a public band calendar, digital press package, and easy way to contact the band for any reason. When I speak with a venue owner, I tell them the site will have anything they need to consider booking the band.

Yup. I think any talk about a website “versus” social media misses the point.

The website isn’t there to “get more traffic” than Facebook, etc. It’s more like a hub, an easy-to-find point that holds the necessary info PLUS portals into all the social media you care to be using. Not just links, either. It’s easy to add feeds to your website, so if you, say, post to Instagram it also shows up on your website.

My band has a Facebook page, an Instagram account, a Twitter account, an official YouTube channel, a verified artist profile on Spotify, etc. The website aggregates them all, so it’s self-populated with the latest. Plus there are no ads or enticements to click elsewhere—people can actually focus on just you, with no distractions, in a context you create and control. And then jump down the social media rabbit hole in any direction they choose.

I don’t care if the website gets five visitors a month. Those five visitors may be venue bookers looking to determine what we can deliver, and if so we’re going to answer that question as quickly as possible.

Another key reason for having a website: search results. If someone’s looking for That Awesome Band, Google is going to serve up “thatawesomeband.com” way higher than a link to a social media site (that may be a Google competitor).

What’s SUPER extra worth it? With a website you can get verified as an artist on Google, which not only rockets you to the top of the search results it lets you claim and use the “knowledge panel”, which is that side infobox that pops up when someone searches for an artist. That’s some free prime real estate, right there.

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I'm excited to be in a new project that looks like it could go places. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself but we are taking band pictures and coming up with media materials. My question is how important is it for a band to have a website along with social media? Of course when starting out we will play wherever we have to in order to get momentum but eventually we would target resorts, events and get out of the bar scene. I believe having a website with a proper domain name gives us some legitimacy but I also know people who have been playing for years with very amateur looking facebook pages. It doesn't seem to slow them down. Does it make a difference to you if you try to get bookings with an email address that ends in .com or [email protected]?
Having a band website isn’t what it used to be. Kind of sucks because back in the late 90s and early 2000s it had its upsides. We had a forum so all the band members and fans could chat whenever they wanted. It was kind of like having our own social media site or chat room before things like MySpace came alone. These days social media formats like Facebook for example definitely have their downsides. They heavily throttle band pages wanting bands to pay money to reach more people. It’s basically become a pay to play scenario. Personally I recommend an all of the above approach to promoting the band online. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Do it all; Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, if you have someone good at website design make a website. I highly recommend getting setup with stuff like the bands in town app if you’re playing live shows. It’s an app that notifies people of shows in their area. Really helps get word to fans of the band about shows where just doing Facebook for example the throttling is so bad you can make ten post about a gig and still some people will never see it.
 
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I dont have much to add as all this is great info.
I concur with @Bunk McNulty it is moderatley sucky. Can be like having another job if you are really at it.
Finally,
Isnt nice to have TB -you get so much real world knowledge here that puts you light years ahead of the average
band?
 
I've heard conflicting ideas about websites from different sources.

You need to first address who you're really marketing yourself to, and where they get most of their media from. The under 25 demo seems to be moving away from Facebook and traditional websites. They gravitate more toward content on Instagram, tik tok, and sometimes YouTube. I've heard that a LOT of young people primarily use tik tok to discover new music. That's aside from the obvious thing of finding music on streaming with playlists that they like.

If you're trying to appeal to older folks (30 or 35+ depending on what area of the country you're in) Facebook is still relevant and very much worth your time. It's an easy way to keep your events organized and in one place. I would caution against paying for ads on Facebook because they are pretty unscrupulous about who they show the ad to, and may totally miss the crowd you're going for.

As far as an email goes, I don't think it matters what the domain name is as long as you keep all of your professional contact consolidated to that one address. My band uses one Gmail account that is synced to all of our devices so we can see all the emails if we want, and every event or schedule conflict that we have is visible to everyone.

If you're just trying to be a weekend warrior band and play local gigs, I don't think a website matters a whole lot. Just post content on whatever platform your fans seem to like most and don't worry about it. If you're trying to grow more and expand your reach, use a website as a tool to address everyone at once. Use it as a spot to hold your bio, your epk, a calendar of events, and whatever else you might need. More importantly, have the homepage as a landing place with links to all your socials. That way you can direct people to your website and they can choose how they want to interact with your content, and quick internet searches will pay off with a broader audience appeal. Make your contact info very prominent. It also can't hurt to have a qr code that you can attach to all your merch that will drop people at your website.

Those are my thoughts. Good luck. Internet marketing is a real tough one because it's a constantly moving target, and like others have said, algorithms are constantly changing.
 
Sadly, it seems one must be focused on producing regular short "content" than quality music projects. 4-5 posts a day minimum to keep the attention spans of a gnat. Yes, marketing is important, but these are early days and you probably should first stay focused on the music. Hire all that other crap out when you're ready for Big Time.
 
Social media is good but won't beat the advantages a website can bring. I believe this will be more beneficial for your business. Some people can help you create that website. You give them a general overview of how you want your website to look, and they will do the rest. For instance, I know that the NLO SMM Panel - #1 Social Media Marketing Provider - 24/7 Support platform has been offering services in the marketing industry for a long time. And are competent enough to help you with your request. I have used their service several times, so I can assure you that the guys know what they are doing.