Well, maybe because new music suxx

[juggahnaught]

The circlejerk of life. It always comes back around to this, doesn't it.

For me:

• Within the genres of music I like, I tend to like and dislike both old music and new music equally. Some songs are great and some aren't. Age has little effect.
• Within the genres of music I don't like, both old music and new music suck equally.

I'm fairly sure that most people spiraling around the drain of this circlejerk are, in actuality, comparing genres of music that they like with genres of music that they don't like.

But you know what? In the end, it doesn't matter. The old will die before the young. The young will grow old. That cycle will continue, and somewhere, some *******'s gonna be complaining that new music isn't as good as the old stuff. shaging depressing.

It would be better if we actually just played our instruments.

 

[whero]

A couple of my fellow boomer friends are sporting (grey) man buns.

I'm 61. Two of my friends have man buns. They think the ret of us \haven't noticed, but it's pretty damned obvious they're the 2010s version of a comb-over.

 

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[Rojd]

Fontaines D.C.

 

[Todd Hamby]

I'm 57 and while I love older music, I think we are living in exciting times musically. I find something almost weekly that I go bonkers over.

 

[OptimalOptimus]

I hate to disagree but you are referring to mostly rap music


Dua lipa and the weekend are actually very 80s inspired albums as well as Miley cyrus and her newer material !

Silk sonic and Bruno Mars really does give a Marvin Gaye vibe

Dua Lipa doesn't have a band in the studio, it is all made in DAW ... Sad But True

 

[Savage_Dreams]

It states new music is considered to be anything 18 months or newer. By that that standard old music covers, oh I don't know, close to a century of recorded music vs 18 months. Won't old music always win? if every song in existence gets played only once old music wins just because there's more of it. Isn't it possible it just has to with the quantity of old vs new rather than any other reason?

Looking at it from this way….. it could mean old and new are coexisting, rather than new replacing old. Isn't that a good thing?

 

[lordradish]

Oh. My. God.

Are we really going forward with this conversation? Haven't we had enough of this ageism crap in the last couple weeks with all the threads about how old everyone is and how much of TB convos are centred on old folks' ideas and ideals?

Geez… it's enough to make a middle aged bassist quit the forum. Seriously - I've had enough of this.

Is it ageist to point out how a lot of this demographic is pretty much stuck on what they listened to when they were younger? Because that's certainly true. It gets so tiresome hearing constantly about 'the kids today' or how whatever one liked in high school was the high water mark or whatever.
I don't think this complaint would come up so much if it wasn't achingly clear how true it is... it's quite tiresome, actually.

I'm a middle-aged bassist, and I certainly don't sit around getting excited by Eric Clapton or Ratt or whatever. Lots of folks around here certainly do. I think a lot of mainstream pop today is garbage, just like a lot of it was in the previous decades, but I'm not one of the ones acting like there's not great music today. Ya just gotta seek it out, like always.

 

[bassdude51]

Every generation thinks that "new music" suxx. The only difference is that this time around, it really does suxx! (Pass the popcorn please.)

 

[mambo4]

Silk Sonic , Jacob Collier, Aurora, Måneskin... there's no shortage of great, popular music being made these days, by musicians with actual talent. Silk Sonic is so good I may actually buy an album for the first time in like 10 years

The main difference today is that an artist isn't forced to hire and wrangle musicians (and copyists, producers, etc...) to create a recording. We as musicians may balk, but it does democratize the process and allow for more experiments and individualized musica, which I am all for.

 

[31HZ]

It's what we are fed.

Corporations run radio conglomerates, and they play what is statistically least likely to not have people not change the station.

Corporations are purchasing the rights to artist's catalogs, and want a return on their dollars.

Corporations commodify the most familiar music in order to get us to open up our pocketbooks ... because it works.

But sure, keep blaming young folks and not, say, boomer cover bands playing sets of fifty-year-old songs, with instruments primarily chosen for a historically-accurate aesthetic in order to fetishize a time when this music stood, ironically, for pushing back against what had come before it.

tl;dr: kids didn't embrace the consolidation and commodification of this art form; their parents did. Don't blame the kids.

 

[rashrader]

I've bought so many awesome albums from currently active, functioning bands and artists this year…. And I'm 51. Here's the deal. New music doesn't suck. New music from corporate record labels sucks. Unfortunately, that's all that a lot of folks ever notice.

 

[Genomatic8]

"Never before in history have new tracks attained hit status while generating so little cultural impact." I think that sums it up. "American Pie" (wicked bass line btw) is on regular rotation in my office. Not sure when it was recorded but it has the "hang time" to remain relevant.

 

[31HZ]

Only one example of course but on a weekend get together of younger and older people I attended last year the recorded music was provided by a young group of friends. It was mostly '60s & '70s stuff. I asked why they chose music from that period.
"Because our music is crap" was the answer.

"Because it's all I know, as my parents played it every single day in the car for 15 years" is probably a factor, too.

 

[smtp4me]

Dua Lipa doesn't have a band in the studio, it is all made in DAW ... Sad But True

Exactly. There are new bands making new music that I do like, including some (but very limited) pop. My biggest complaint with modern pop music is not necessarily the music itself, but rather the fact that musicians who actually play instruments are a dying breed in that genre. In the past year I have seen the appearance of chord progression packs for DAWs. So now, not only can you make music with zero instrument skills, you don't even need to have the most basic understanding of scales and chords. It is VERY sad...

It's like they all want to be a star major league baseball player but don't want to put in the time to learn how to catch, throw, and hit. What is the saying - "if _________ were easy, everyone would do it"?

 

[wazzel]

And the thing about young people not buying music anymore isn't totally on them/us. So many things have moved to a subscription based model and it is increasingly difficult and/or annoying to find somewhere to buy a song or album. Even then, if you buy you can only use that file on the platform it was made for. In other words, I can't buy songs from ITunes and then move those files to other devices unless they also have ITunes. Even with ITunes, each and every time I open it to look for music I want to buy I am bombarded with ads for ******* Apple Music, which is of course subscription based. I absolutely loathe this perpetual renting of everything...and similarly this notion that one is not actually buying a song or album but rather leasing legal permission to access said song or album... permission that can and will be revoked at any time at a company's whim because there is nothing a normal person can do about it. Additionally is the fact that you simply cannot purchase songs or albums without going through some third party app that makes you give them your personal information. That only motivates people with the technical knowhow to pirate things. The industry has chosen this path... or rather the mega companies that control the industry have chosen this path.

True, no one needs to purchase music like back in the 80's and 90's. You can listen to just about everything for free on one of the streaming services. There is lots of good modern music, but you need to venture away from the pop and other heavily played radio tunes. My kids were/are in to the non-mainstream music. Taking them to concerts was always enjoyable for me.

 

[E2942]

How did man buns even enter the discussion about music?
I guess there was just as much outrage when rock & roller men started grow long hair so many decades ago.

Perhaps also similar to the response from the previous generation when punk rockers in London were shaving in mohawks.

As for the music, the newest CD I own is two decades old & I'm fine with that!
Most of the listenable music went out of fashion at the turn of the Millennium, in my opinion.

 

[Ric5]

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[friskinator]

Dua Lipa doesn't have a band in the studio, it is all made in DAW ... Sad But True

No, there isn't a "band" in the studio making her records, but there are absolutely real instruments on there. And she uses a full band live.

I'm not sure why people have a problem with there not being a band in the studio. As long as the songs are good, I don't care. There are a million creative areas where tech has made the job much easier. If the end result is a good product, I can't see where it matters. Should we go back to recording on 2" tape and photography on film? That ship has sailed.