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Well, this is depressing. Sheesh!
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I knew that!!
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greetings
Wise
I knew that!!
btw I love your blog abouthowtoeatingoodresaurants.com
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greetings
Wise
They have napkins on... perfectly legitimate.
I'm a jazz contrabassoonist and I'm rich! Rich, I tell you!
Man, that guy seems kind of blue and in a sentimental mood.
I can’t name a better way to gain understanding of how music works, and how to function in any musical situation, than through a jazz education.
Jazz guys can always take cover band gigs but you can’t hold down a jazz gig unless you know how.
Jazz guys can always take cover band gigs but you can’t hold down a jazz gig unless you know how.
Q: What's the difference between a rock guitarist and a jazz guitarist?
A: The rock guitarist plays three chords in front of thousands of people...............
A: The rock guitarist plays three chords in front of thousands of people...............
you must be kidding!!!
when you are broke you can not afford "pay to play"
which is very much the standard for ""coming" young metal bands today
Wise(b)ass
That's what Miles said.toanswerwithjazz.com edit:
"So What"
Wise(b)ass
I don't feel so bad now. Jazz has helped me immensely. By studying it, the mystery of how chords work, the art of syncopation, the subtleties of how to emote through your instrument, and endless examples of superlative arranging has increased my abilities tenfold. If there's anything I can blame a ruined life on, it's a failed marriage.
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If you're not well known, that must suck. Or does it suck more, being really well known once, but playing to an audience of 20 people. Many the big name did i go to see, to find no audience at the show (both Rock and Jazz). Times change, music popularity shifts.
Yes it is.
I came from a musical family.In 1970, I was in a very successful local high school band that gigged venues twice a week for some "serious" money. When it came time to go off to college, I told my father I wanted to study music and he said "HELL NO". And he was right. I had a very successful career outside of music and played music when the fancy caught me. I wasn't chained to music as a means of support and i wasn't giving lessons or working in a music store for low wages, like two of my band brethren who never made it. I have met several former one hit wonders from the rock business doing just that.
My $0.02
The music business has be devolving for decades and is now driven strictly for money unless you are in the publically supported sectors (i.e. classical music and some jazz.). Its not music, but entertainment that rules the roost, so if you are attractive and have a gimmick and can write some hot songs (or have them written by others), you will do well until the next fad comes along. If you are a fat and ugly, you may not even be able to get a bar band gig.
The studio work is dying (refuge of the fat and ugly but talented group).
The restaurant jazz work is dying
Music stores are dying (in case you wonder where you will be working in 10 years).
Actual jobs playing music that will pay the way are few and far between unless you have a masters/PhD in music and teach or are one of the truly gifted.
Some of the best working musicians I have met are lawyers and doctors. Just saying....
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Give it another 15-20 years, when the blog is "How Emo Punk Metalcore" ruined my life.
A well known BL called and offered me a jazz gig. I asked what it was worth?
$200 bucks he says.
While I was loading in he says I might as well pay my $200 upfront.
$200 bucks he says.
While I was loading in he says I might as well pay my $200 upfront.
That about sums it up. I stopped doing hired gun bass work when I realized there was not much of a future in it. I started writing music. I learned a ton about production and I studied IT. I managed and produced some small bands briefly. I'm nowhere near the bassist I was when I worked on it full time though.
You have to REALLY want to be a musician to do it. I come from an "arts" family, and was strongly discouraged from pursuing the arts by my family. I think you have about as much a chance of being a successful pro basketball player as you do successful professional musician. Sad but true.
Anyway, I am still compelled to make music, to teach music and art. I'm not happy doing anything else. It's always sad to see someone like the blogger who is losing enjoyment and hope in the process.
Entertainment and The Arts are definitely not for the faint of heart.
Music is a very scary business.
Too funny. I have a good friend that studies Czech Bluegrass. He’s a university professor with a degree in ethnomusicology... as if that didn’t put him in a small enough niche!
