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We've been auditioning singers since November....

March to November, last year... auditioning lead guitarist... and still practicing once a week, like we had one...

... 8 months later, we did find one, who not only has a great technical side playing, but also shows a lot of enthusiasm for what we want to do...

... patience.
 
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In the corporate world, there is the concept of “perpetual recruiting”. Instead of stopping your capabilities if ever someone leaves their job, you always keep a list of possible candidates to pull from and replace the missing link within a reasonable time.

Also, the concept of “force ranking”, where tough to instill, keeps you focused on continuous improvement; I would employ the 60+ Skull dude, and if one day you find your candidate, replace him.

If this is not a business, these above wouldn’t apply. Yet, just brought them here if they offer you any help.

Haha, I thought of the same thing and exact conversations I have had with managers. "So you're telling me you have several qualified people, but you don't want to make an offer for a variety of tiny reasons and you want to just kind of keep looking forever."
 
I don't believe that we're being overly particular/picky.

Interesting...

I just want to be sure I'm understanding everything.

You're a classic rock cover band of older dudes (nothing wrong with that), but you're turning down possible suitable candidates because you think they're "too nerdy/geeky"? Sounds overly picky and downright superficial to me.

You're a classic rock cover band. Unless all four of you dress the part, have pro gear, and are all in great physical shape, you're just being silly.
 
Sings too loud? How it that even a thing? Too nerdy or geeky? Sounds like you guys don't know what you're looking for.

I have played with a singer who sang loud, but he might mean the singer had no control on projection volume. It didn't take much other than pointing out how soft and controlled the vocals were on the originals to have him focus more on it.

Think "Creep" from Radiohead. You wouldn't want to belt out the verses full power similar to the ending part.

However, that can be worked on. It's insane to assume the absolute 100% perfect band member/performer is going to fall in your lap without any effort beyond a CL ad.
 
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We tried to recruit a replacement singer for our cover band for months too. Went through a bunch, found a guy who was awesome, we all had great chemistry and I was psyched. After the 2nd "practice", we never heard from him again. Went through a couple more, then found a great female singer who had that "rock rasp/grit" to her voice, but she gave off this weird vibe. We had a full setlist of songs all ready to go so we wanted to just plug and gig and not spend a year adding new songs, so maybe that explained her weird attitude. But, i insisted that I didnt want to stop the progress to add all the usual "chick songs" (joan jett, melissa etheridge, pat benetar...Ive been in female fronted band for 6 out of the last 11 years so I was just sick of those songs) so it didnt work out. We finally found a guy that can sing pretty well when he "belts it out" (not "too loud" just puts energy into it). When he pulls back a little, it isnt great, but overall he does well. Is he the ideal, natural born killer singer? No. But I think he can pull it off and quite frankly, if our search went on much longer, it would have likely ended the band.
 
When he pulls back a little, it isnt great, but overall he does well. Is he the ideal, natural born killer singer? No. But I think he can pull it off and quite frankly,

I think this is something a lot of bands in the OP's situation need to think about.

You simply don't need a resurrected Freddie Mercury to play Mustang Sally in a sports bar for people who are more concerned about their bud lights and hot wings.
 
in the late '90s, my main band and i spent a full year looking for singers with no luck, although many of them generated lots of stories for us. we were playing sort of alt punk, and our singers included -

the 22 year old punk singer with a great voice who showed up almost two hours late with friends. she said she had ten minutes to audition and then they had to go see the lion king. she had an awesome voice, but after two weeks hadn't actually listened to our music enough to know the music or changes for even one of them. she kept calling me for weeks after we told her no, but thanks.

the MMA guy. he was actually slim, maybe 5' 5" with long hair and glasses, but talked about aggressive music and fighting non-stop. for reasons we will never know, he looked only at the guitar player (who was VERY uncomfortable about this) and would only talk to him. when the drummer or i had questions, he either addressed the answers to the guitar player or ignored us entirely. he did listen to the music, wrote very violent lyrics that none of us liked. NEXT!

the earth mother type who dressed in a mix of 1960s commune and little house on the prairie. she wore berks. she made us a huge plate of chocolate chip cookies. her singing didn't fit our style or preferences, and the guitar player said she eyed our gear throughout like she was pricing it and deciding where to sell it.

the list goes on and on and on... our drummer set up an audition with three singers all scheduled simultaneously. the two that were on time were more classic rock than punk/alt singers, but they were both actors, and after they had both auditioned, they left together to go to a coffee shop and talk about "the craft". the other guy was late, hadn't listened to our music "at all" in two weeks because he was busy. the singer we tried out for two weeks who ended up being stalked by the guy who owned the rehearsal studio we played at. she had originally given him her number, then when he wouldn't stop calling her, what does she do? she gives him her address. and he literally sits outside her apartment and stalks her. believe me, there were a lot of singers.

i ended up becoming the singer by default, which i didn't want to do because we played super fast and sometimes super technical, and i enjoyed being one with the bass rather than also singing. it worked out okay, but it wasn't what we had envisioned.

me, i'd give the guy with the skulls a shot. he could always wear shirts with sleeves, right?
 
I think this is something a lot of bands in the OP's situation need to think about.

You simply don't need a resurrected Freddie Mercury to play Mustang Sally in a sports bar for people who are more concerned about their bud lights and hot wings.


Exactly. What I find interesting about "can't find a suitable singer" ads are that the band members can't/won't do the singing either.

Some genres clearly can't be done well by someone playing an instrument, but classic rock surely can.
 
Every weekend, I play in a church (I play at several different ones), and although I do some material many times (the evangelical song list is only so deep at any one given moment), I play in every key, and the arrangements and feel of a given tune may vary widely. I have to adapt every weekend to work around the strengths of the singer(s) we have. One weekend, the singer took Ill after Saturday night, and Sunday morning - new keys, new arrangements.

Your audience will, if you have a decent singer, have a primal connection with them - the human voice is, by far, the thing that will grab an audience's attention - much faster and more solidly than the best guitar lick, the best groove on the planet from the bass, or the sickest drum fill. Their talents and abilities are where things start. From the audience's perspective, the rest of you are a backup/backdrop to the singer - the sooner you understand that, the easier this will be. The rest of the band should be willing to adapt/work around that singer's range and style, provided it's somewhere close to where your wheelhouse is. Expecting the singer to adapt to you (musically - if they're a jerk, that's another story) is the wrong way of thinking.

But yes, singer auditions are tough. 95 % of the world's population thinks they can sing. Most of them are wrong.
 
Writing a guy off because of tattoo's? Did the OP happen to watch the Super Bowl halftime show? Maroon 5 isn't exactly playing biker music or death metal. Also, Shouldn't your lead singer/front person look the part and be a little "over the top". I think that is in the job description.
 
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....And still can't seem to find the "right" one! We're "just" a cover band that plays classic rock, alternative rock, and a few country tunes. These auditions have become somewhat frustrating because we can't seem to find who we're looking for.

The four of us (drummer, bassist, two guitar players) are all in our mid-to-late 50's. We're not a start-up band, either; we are a working band and losing out on gigs at this point. Our singer quit back in late October and had been with us for over two years. It's not that he was a hard act to follow, we're just not going to "settle" on someone this time like we had in the past.

I don't believe that we're being overly particular/picky. We are looking for someone that is going to be the right fit for us; not only a good (great?!) singer, and has a decent personality. I think every band desires someone like that. So far we just haven't found that guy who fits in with us. And, yes, we're looking for a male lead singer.

Some have been cocky; full of themselves, and weren't the best of singers.

One guy we auditioned sounded like Joe Cocker, but with a burnt-out voice, and there was no way he'd make it through 4 sets. Another guy just couldn't sing very well at all. He was a nice guy but nerdy/geeky. He had a lot of energy but a lot of our tunes were out of his wheelhouse. Because of his nerdiness I would've been a little embarrassed to play a gig with him.

A guy we auditioned last week was 36 years old, had a very powerful singing voice, but he sang way too loud! As I stated, we do classic rock, and this guy is into heavier rock (Nickelback, Five Finger Death Punch, etc.), and so he put that kind of spin into his singing of "All Right Now", "Blue On Black", as well as a few others. We want to keep our classic rock songs sounding as such, not with a "modern" heavy sound to them.

A singer that I liked and felt was a decent singer was 61 years old. He didn't have long hair, which is OK (wouldn't have mattered either way), dressed the part, wore skull rings, and had tattoos up and down both arms and his neck. He seemed to have a decent personality and I thought he'd fit in OK with us, but one of our guys felt that he'd make us look like fools by the way he dressed, with his skull rings and tats, and that he was "over the top."

We cancelled an audition for this week for a singer that just sounded "way out there". He allegedly has a lot of musical experience, but after talking to him on the phone and hearing his life story and musical experiences, something just didn't feel right about him. The drummer felt the same way after I told the band about this guy, and he didn't feel right having him come into his house, since we practice and audition at the drummer's house.

I placed an ad on Craigslist and that's where a majority of our auditions have come from. I also placed an ad on a local Facebook band members page, and thought we'd have better luck by now with both ads out there. At this point I'm tempted to go to Guitar Center and a few other local music shops and ask the sales associates if they know of any singers that might be looking for a band to join. One of our band members suggested going to an open mic night.

You can check us out on Facebook: @redlinestl

Has anyone here spent this long auditioning a singer or other band member???
I agree with everyone who says bring back the 61 year old
 
I far prefer a frontman who is also a player (even if it's just a guy with a box guitar who can strum rhythm in time and in tune) to folks that are singers only. By a lot.
I've always felt that way too -- until we got the guy we have now. We have two really good guitarists who both sing pretty well -- they can cover most of the vocals at rehearsal if the lead singer can't make it -- but having him there invariably raises the whole band to another level: Everything is tighter, the guitarists play better, and everyone seems to play with more energy and confidence. It's not an arrangement I would have sought out, but I'm sure glad it worked out this way.
 
I was found on bandmix. Loves me new band. Craigslist is kinda known as the bottom of the barrel. Definitely agree with others that networking at a place like an open mic would be worthwhile.

Image seems important for you guys, which is cool - do each of you have long hair, the right amount of tats, a flat stomach, and great stage presence? I cannot see denying a musician because of his/her jewelry values.

Thanks for letting me share.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
man, coming from a nerd, i was pretty disheartened to read this. no offense, but how do you know that he didn't think the same thing about you? i.e. what makes you cool and him a nerd?

I think the disheartening part is that the OP is admittedly over 50 years old. 50 years on this planet and he still hasn't figured out that social status such as being cool or not is something that children do.

I'm totally cool btw. I'm not upset, because cool people don't get upset. We're too cool for that.
 
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