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What a time to be alive....
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Yup, my mathematical equation involving sexually transmitted diseases was totally genuine.
So I meet a lady. We date, hit it off, and end up making love. We move on, and don't see each other again at some point shortly after that. How are you qualified to judge me for that? What special qualifications do you have. I am still friends with most women I have dated, some from many many years ago. I just think you are throwing your hat into a ring it does not belong in, that's all. Don't be rude to people who don't deserve it, that's all I'm saying and don't judge people based on your own personal morals. It's unseemly.
It started with you saying all people over twenty have had dozens of partners. That elicited some jokes. You're over reacting. For someone so critical of the validity of my opinions, you're taking them very seriously.
Eh, it's not that bad.
In the context of this conversation, it's the word you would use for the anime/video game character you identify as your wife, if you had chosen one.
-Mike
I'm 53 and haven't gone past one hand of partners. Not interested in doing it either. Am I less of a man? Am I abnormal?
Do I care?
No. No I don't.
My ex wife (1st and 3rd partner) agreed to remarry me. I guess I'm alright
If I was single and young and socially inept or even socially adverse, I think the option of robotic companionship could be a viable outlet. Why not? Different strokes and all that.
Do I care?
No. No I don't.
My ex wife (1st and 3rd partner) agreed to remarry me. I guess I'm alright
If I was single and young and socially inept or even socially adverse, I think the option of robotic companionship could be a viable outlet. Why not? Different strokes and all that.
Ewwwwww.... Didjagetanyonya?
Zappa...right twist the lookers..well played.
So, if we skip over the glaring hypocrisy of the whole thing, and look at it from a philosophical standpoint, I think we can have a safe, albeit disgusting conversation.
I saw the topic being posted on FB, but I will admit that I didn't look too far into the details. It was more of a "Sure, why the F not" eye roll. However, this does bring up some legit legal, ethical, and philosophical conundrums.
1.) The use of robots have already replaced humans in several jobs across many work sectors, all in the name of efficiency. From a capitalist standpoint, this is more efficient, there is a consumer base, and has the potential to be profitable. From a worker standpoint, this serves to put some people (this may not all be fem-bots mind you) out of work. It is unpleasant work, but it is still work.
2.) Bestiality is illegal on the premise that it is taking violent advantage of a animal that can't say "no" or consent in any way. Can that same premise be applied to these sex bots? Do they have interactive AI? Can they say "no"? Are the androids designed to act like humans or just mechanized body parts?
3.) If these machines are androids with interactive AI, then we are forced to address an issue that we have long kicked down the road, which is at what point do we consider AI sentient enough to be a coherent life form that needs a legal status? If they have legal status, do prostitution laws apply towards them.
4.) At the core of this are the murky laws regarding prostitution, which have increasingly fewer logical arguments.
From a business standpoint, you have a supply and you have a demand; profits are assured. Profits outweigh all moral concerns in the US market.
From a moral point of view, one could say that if you go out with someone you met on a hookup site, pay for a dinner, pay for entertainment (movie, club, event, etc) and that all eventually leads to what both parties know will be sex, how is that not prostitution? There are service that are explicitly for the purpose of bringing together Sugar Daddies\Mommas with unattached young folk. Is that a form of prostitution?
Outside of a very specific Judeo-Christian framework, why is prostitution even an issue? Can't modern medical practices deal many of the arguments against it? Don't modern approaches to sex and marriage negate any argument against "damage to the social fabric of our society"?
5.) Is this really even a valid business model? With a credit card and browser you can clear the cache of, you can buy all the "parts" you would want for your private intimate use. Why would anyone want to go out in public and use said "parts" that other people are using. There is a pretty solid flow of logic as to why VHS\DVD sales replaced adult theaters, and why the internet replaced VHS\DVD shops. People still aren't that comfortable with sex, whether it be with other humans, themselves, devices, and that probably extends to robo-brothels.
6.) I haven't spent a lot of time looking into this, but from little I've seen, even the most realistic sex doll\robot is still super weird looking. We are a long, long way off from Bladerunner, AI, Ghost In The Shell, Westworld, Ex Machina levels of realism. We can't even get locomotion right.
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
Can you not legally use sex workers in Houston? We have city licensed parlours here and we are in one of the most conservative (and crime-riddled) parts of Canada. One of the biggest arguments is about human trafficking and consent but I don't see that as an issue with robots. Maybe I am missing something here...
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep brings up a lot of wonderful ethical questions. Bladerunner barely scratches the surface.
Here's my take away from both: Don't make Androids look exactly like humans, and always build in an off switch.
Call me paranoid, but I'm not a fan of sentient, self aware AI, or fully human looking androids. Even cyberizing human consciousness seems like a bad idea to me. Replacing limbs or organs with artificial devices seems ethically clear, but digging into the fuzzy gray area around what "alive" means can only lead to trouble.
Humans are far more clever than we are wise. We built the atom bomb without considering the implications. Building sentient sex droids seems like a one way ticket to getting destroyed by ticked off androids.
Because I'm nut for details:
This entire story started just because two men enquired about a lease, which has since been denied.
They were renting Canadian sex dolls, not robots.
So this is a tempest in teapot.
This entire story started just because two men enquired about a lease, which has since been denied.
They were renting Canadian sex dolls, not robots.
So this is a tempest in teapot.
I would be the first human to be dumped by a robot. I'll pass, thanks.
Don't kid yourself. "We" built the atom bomb in order to kill as many people as possible.
