I don’t want to get into a "thing" over this, but there's a school on a street with a 35 mph speed limit near me. People regularly go 45 mph whether the lights are flashing or not, and that's not right.
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Wait, was this from a camera?TIL that the fine for doing 29mph in a flashing 20 school zone is hella excessive
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I wanted to slap the first kid I saw after opening that
I feel ya.
But that is not this, or even close to what you just described happening.
If the fine was a quarter of a million dollars, would you just shrug it off as 'the time' and pony it up?? I guess it depends on one's income bracket to determine what is a just and fair fine/punishment to fit the crime.
If it was something up to about $100, I'd just pay the damn thing... but now I see this as a gouging injustice by the powers that be, and I'm going to fight city hall.
Yes, with no photo of the driver.
Goliath... meet David
IANAL
"Traffic Tickets" are summary offences. This means that your rights (to trial etc.) as the accused are limited, but the other side of that is that the punishments have to be minor (a fine that is not financially onerous). If the fine for speeding in a school zone were $250k, then you would have the right to trial either by judge or jury, right to representation etc.
The question then is two fold - is $230 onerous, and what amount is onerous. That is up to legislators to decide.
If it were me on the receiving end of that fine, I would be rather upset also. [rant] But, I also see extraordinarily poor driving every day and I wonder how those people still have drivers licenses. How is it that I can see cars daily with NO functioning brake lights? Do the cops not notice this? Or do they just not bother pulling these people over? [/rant]
Today I learned that I have better timing than my metronome.
I was practicing regularity with repeated notes, with the old metronome. But after careful to listening I had to decide that the metronome's ticking was irregular in varying ways. So I ended up disposing of it. Well, I'd owned it for over 40 years.
I was practicing regularity with repeated notes, with the old metronome. But after careful to listening I had to decide that the metronome's ticking was irregular in varying ways. So I ended up disposing of it. Well, I'd owned it for over 40 years.
I learned that learning the Meow Mix jingle on bass is complicated by laughter.
I learned today that I gotta get my main bass fixed. I have bare brass pins on my stingray and the darn thing is retracting like pool shrinkage and it cuts off volume. New one for me. Time to get it fixed. Yay!
I was meaning to comment on your post, liked it, and had to address something thinking I could get back to you right away. Sorry to miss your post. That's cool your dad was an art teacher as well and that you guys had a show of his work. That's a great idea and one I wish we had thought of as well. Best wishes to you and your family!
Yeah, that's not right.
Most of the school zone signs near me usually have a caveat and say "when children are present" so if that one is similar, you might be able to contest that.
In my opinion, that's far too steep a fine.
The issue with the Illinois “present” signs is one of definition - present as in school today, or present as in RIGHT THERE. I’ve seen both definitions used in the courts.
I'm in Wisconsin, and it's the same deal. I define "present" as at the scene. However, the cop who gave my sister a ticket years ago defined it as being in the school.
If the present didn't mean 'present company', why would they even need that the 'If...' sign to be there at all?? I mean, would it be lit up during a Teacher In Service day? How would we know which is taking place?? I see it as a fleece job to those who don't contest it (& maybe even still to those who do.) I'll be sure to let you know
I've never been in a situation where I had to utilize the definition, but I guess to me, I would think it means present on the scene.
Running this up the freaky flagpole, as we spook. Ancient Ink: Unearthing the secrets of the ancient flesh … There's Barbary sheep and wild bulls, inked onto mummies, unearthed in recent times — symbolic of kings and things. Otzi, the Iceman, was a big tat fan who had sixty odd inkings, often on meridians where arthritis was evidently prominent. Women had what's described by the diggers as erotic tattoos, on those parts where arts starts. One digger, to test their theories, successfully tattooed himself using what they believe is the the ancient method. He now has two concentric rings 'round his left wrist, just like Otzi, all in the name of science.
Hot off the pill presses, Invalid Link Removed
Never seen the sense in steroid abuse, one of the most ruinous aspects of Sport. Who knew that Sir Roger Bannister may have been a speed freak, in the pharmacological sense? 'Crossing the line' and 'breaking records' may well have Invalid Link Removed, when you dig in and get jiggy with the norms. — Don't imagine sport was any purer in Sir Roger Bannister's day than Sir Bradley Wiggins's
But in this age of narcissism, the lure of designer drugs is going beyond disease proportions. Again, there's some irony involved here. We take this rubbish because we want to be more alluring. We feel inadequate or we want to be more powerful, more 'beautiful', more 'winning' but we can wind up with liver disease, kidney disease, toxic shock, organ failure, chronic ill health, as a consequence. What we're ingesting, routinely, is all too often unknown, unregulated, unreliable — more often than not, imported — and potentially very dangerous to our health and our well being. Suck it up, Charlie Atlas.
Never seen the sense in steroid abuse, one of the most ruinous aspects of Sport. Who knew that Sir Roger Bannister may have been a speed freak, in the pharmacological sense? 'Crossing the line' and 'breaking records' may well have Invalid Link Removed, when you dig in and get jiggy with the norms. — Don't imagine sport was any purer in Sir Roger Bannister's day than Sir Bradley Wiggins's
But in this age of narcissism, the lure of designer drugs is going beyond disease proportions. Again, there's some irony involved here. We take this rubbish because we want to be more alluring. We feel inadequate or we want to be more powerful, more 'beautiful', more 'winning' but we can wind up with liver disease, kidney disease, toxic shock, organ failure, chronic ill health, as a consequence. What we're ingesting, routinely, is all too often unknown, unregulated, unreliable — more often than not, imported — and potentially very dangerous to our health and our well being. Suck it up, Charlie Atlas.
Today I learned that I have maybe kind of sort of possibly tentatively agreed to approach a relationship with a female for the first time in 16 years.
