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What do you think of Michael Savage's comments?
- Thread starter afinalfantasy
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Another thing I can't stand is the automatic condemnation, and even calls to remove someone from the airwaves, that ensues after someone says something insensitive. Grow the 'F" up people!! Free speech is guaranteed for EVERYONE, not just for people you happen to agree with.
Like it or not, Savage speaks for a conservative audience that feels (rightly or wrongly) that our overly-permissive, often hedonistic culture is eroding traditional family values. I personally don't completely agree with this, but I prefer to have a DISCUSSION rather than automatically turning off my brain to an opinion that is different than my own.
Like it or not, Savage speaks for a conservative audience that feels (rightly or wrongly) that our overly-permissive, often hedonistic culture is eroding traditional family values. I personally don't completely agree with this, but I prefer to have a DISCUSSION rather than automatically turning off my brain to an opinion that is different than my own.
+1
a friend of mine has a 23 yo son with "autism, add/adhd" and is on all kinds of meds. this kid is loud, interupts conversations and is just generally rude. i think that in his case, it aint autism. this kid has been enabled and is just an ******* that needs to be be smacked.
Not suprised to hear that. Michael Savage would do well do emulate your above post in providing actual firsthand experience rather than using broad generalizations. Never a good idea. Of course, that is what these type of Talk Show hosts trade in, and what nets them large audiences. IMO. I personally like Neil Boortz!!
In a weird twist of fate, Randy Savage approves of Michael Savage's comments:
That's a clear indication of overmedication by way of ADHD medication......................that is laced with anabolic steroids....................................................and shiny cocoa butter........
I'm off to get some Slim Jim!
Before this turns into a heated debate that eventually gets closed, has anyone done research or have clinical experience on this topic? If the answer is no, then there's really no point in arguing as he could potentially be correct.
Pediatrics and psychology are far from what I do these days, but some research states that it's increasing and drugs help. Guess who funds the research? DRUG COMPANIES. It's often hard for me to validate a lot of studies simply because there's often a lot of money at stake AND it's not impossible to fudge things to get a study to say what the author wants it to say.
Regardless, something is going on. Since you can get executed for spanking children (sarcasm), it's no wonder why kids act up. When I was a kid, acting up in church meant going "outside" (heh, anyone 25+ knows about outside) or sent to the (I'll give you a reason to) cry room. Now what do parents usually do? NOTHING. Is this enabling bad behaviors? Potentially.
I myself was "diagnosed" with ADD by my preschool teacher...who went to med school where????????????
Turns out I didn't have much of an attention span because I was 4. :scowl: A highschool classmate of mine spent his whole life being told he wasn't able to do much because of ADD. He outscored all the guys who were doing his homework on the ACT.
Pediatrics and psychology are far from what I do these days, but some research states that it's increasing and drugs help. Guess who funds the research? DRUG COMPANIES. It's often hard for me to validate a lot of studies simply because there's often a lot of money at stake AND it's not impossible to fudge things to get a study to say what the author wants it to say.
Regardless, something is going on. Since you can get executed for spanking children (sarcasm), it's no wonder why kids act up. When I was a kid, acting up in church meant going "outside" (heh, anyone 25+ knows about outside) or sent to the (I'll give you a reason to) cry room. Now what do parents usually do? NOTHING. Is this enabling bad behaviors? Potentially.
I myself was "diagnosed" with ADD by my preschool teacher...who went to med school where????????????
Turns out I didn't have much of an attention span because I was 4. :scowl: A highschool classmate of mine spent his whole life being told he wasn't able to do much because of ADD. He outscored all the guys who were doing his homework on the ACT.
LOL at the phrase "84 seconds" being used so many times (see, it's just a small snippet of time!), and suddenly referring to this toolbag as "Dr. Savage", as if his PhD in "Epidemiology and Nutritional Science" makes him an authority on autism.
LOL at the phrase "84 seconds" being used so many times (see, it's just a small snippet of time!), and suddenly referring to this toolbag as "Dr. Savage", as if his PhD in "Epidemiology and Nutritional Science" makes him an authority on autism.
Well, if you have a PHD then you are a Doctor of something. He got it from Stanford too IIRC.
Anyway back to the man. Michael Savage maybe a prick but like Howard Stern, he is a popular prick. He gets the afternoon commute time slot where I live. Conservative talk radio in general seems more popular than liberal talk radio (Air America's rating is pitiful compared to Savage and his ilk). Maybe that says something about how America really feels.
It's still irrelevant to the topic, but it gets pulled out anyway--gotta love PR.
Some are more easily swayed by yelling and easy-to-swallow soundbites. That's all I'm saying on that subject.
ETA: Now maybe we could dispense with the politics and actually get back to the topic at hand.
It's still irrelevant to the topic, but it gets pulled out anyway--gotta love PR.
Some are more easily swayed by yelling and easy-to-swallow soundbites. That's all I'm saying on that subject.
ETA: Now maybe we could dispense with the politics and actually get back to the topic at hand.
That's exactly the opposite of what you get on Michael Savage's show IMO. In fact, he is very articulate and will cover an issue in depth, albeit it is simply his own opinion, which he makes abundantly clear. Problem is, he's so extreme in expressing his opinion that it makes it easy for Lib groups to create the soundbites, usually out of context.
Besides, isn't most of our media characterized by shallow coverage that trades in soundbites and fails to get beyond rhetoric? IMO/IME, this is the case, and I see it bleed over into how normal people debate and discuss issues. Sometimes, even in this very forum.........
Um, ADD and Autism are very different things. People can argue all they want about ADD not existing/being overdiganosed etc but anyone who has spent some time around someone who is actually autistic wouldn't be this ignorant on the matter.
Saying kids with autism just need to be smacked is like saying people with Parkinson's just need to be told to sit still.
I listened to his portion of the Youtube clip. What would be the "context" to statements like "autism is a fraud, a racket", "everyone had asthma from the minority community" and "autism, in 99% of the cases, is a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out"? He's got only himself to blame, IMO.
It's not the extreme way he expresses his opinion, it's the actual extremeness (sic?) of his opinions. Which, of course, is why he gets so much attention, which in turn seems to be exactly what he wants.
Most coverage is shallow, true, and sometimes it's bad or irresponsible. However, unlike talk radio, most media coverage involves editors, news and facts (and fact checkers), and at least an attempt to provide two sides to the story or a dissenting voice. They're barely comparable.Besides, isn't most of our media characterized by shallow coverage that trades in soundbites and fails to get beyond rhetoric? IMO/IME, this is the case, and I see it bleed over into how normal people debate and discuss issues. Sometimes, even in this very forum.........
I don't think (although I don't know) that Savage was intentionally lumping these disorders together. I listened to some of this on the way home from work (12 hour shift, things may be fuzzy). Regardless, from a psychological perspective, some (certainly far from all) of the exhibited bad behaviors by children can mimic ADD and/or autism, but can be caused by years of enabling bad behaviors, or so I was taught.
Unless you know for a fact he hasn't been properly diagnosed with it, you shouldn't call him names. You shouldn't call him names period, which is quite rude.
Also, if he is Autistic, then I have a very negative opinion of you now.
